For better visualization

[furbs]

There will be cliffs in the ROF channel map.

[Feathered_IV]

Different bit of England there.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Can't really understand the amount of dislike and hostility here. IL-2 took the plunge and is dead, long live the king. It is now transferring to a new engine and we do NOT know if it will be exactly the same or DirectX 11 for example. Too much speculation going on. We all want a sim but still keep bitching about it like kids. Sad. Better give it a shot when released rather than biotch about it and not even giving it a chance.

[Hooves]

I can practically hear Bliss crying, lol.. and crumpling up pieces of paper and grumbling.

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Can't really understand the amount of dislike and hostility here. IL-2 took the plunge and is dead, long live the king. It is now transferring to a new engine and we do NOT know if it will be exactly the same or DirectX 11 for example. Too much speculation going on. We all want a sim but still keep bitching about it like kids. Sad. Better give it a shot when released rather than biotch about it and not even giving it a chance.

This ^ for f's sake guys, its dead, they were a hole's to us while it was alive and now a actually well managed team is going to take on the next chapter of Il2. God you act liked they came over to your house and kicked your dog.

But on topic, there are some very beatiful shots that can be found in ROF. YES I KNOW ABOUT THE GROUND OBJECT LIMIT. But that is something that I'm sure they are going to work on. I doubt Jason took on this project knowing full well his engine couldn't handle it. I'm pretty sure he is aware of what can be done in DN in the future, I mean hell look at ARMA, that is the Real Virtuality Engine that ran OFP. Look at ARMA 3. Graphics engines can evolve.

[startrekmike]

You know, I joined this community not long ago with this silly idea that all of us Flight sim fans were in this together, that we were a tight knit community that knew not only how to behave but how to treat each other like human beings.

What I have seen on this post goes beyond playful sibling rivalry, this is outright shameful, all this nitpicking and hate for something you all know NOTHING about yet, there is no actual information yet beyond a few words on a page and you will think it is okay to jump on the 777 hatewagon.

I am going to be honest, I am one of those dirty ROF players and I find many of the posts on this topic (mostly from Banned) to be insulting and hurtful, I mean, don't you get that it is okay to like both, that liking one does not mean you can't like the other.

Lets be honest here, CloD is dead, it has been dead since the last steam patch and while I find it perfectly playable and very fun, it is not the product that we wanted and it is not the one that they set out to make, bad choices were made and now it is over.

777 has run a tight ship, while you may all look at ROF (in development) screenshots and thumb your noses, blurting insults at anyone who dares like the "rival", you all have to admit that ROF works as planned, everything that they set out to do gets done without all the drama and bellyaching that we have seen from some of the CloD dev's and forum mods, it just plain works and it works really well.

I am not going to get into a fight over what is better in terms of gameplay, I prefer CloD's clickable cockpits (yes Banned, even a lowly ROF player can handle them, I even play DCS titles, is your mind blown?) and the overall look of the maps and aircraft but when it comes to feel, when it comes to the flight model, ROF wins hands down, it just feels right.

ROF is my go-to sim these days, I have all the planes and will continue to buy content for it as they release it, I would have bought Battle over Moscow also but that was never to be, I had my doubts that they could get things together and they came true.

Look at it this way, if it were not for this partnership, there would be no IL-2 anymore, in a way, us lowly ROF players are opening our doors to the CloD community and we are not doing so with vicious bile and hate, we welcome new players into our community with open arms.

I don't hate on CloD or CloD players because I play ROF, heck, I play CloD on a regular basis myself!

Perhaps it is time to just accept the fact that CloD is dead and maybe try to think of this as a fresh start where we can put away our petty rivalry and move on to brighter times for both of us.

[ParaB]

It's not the "community". The problem is that a very small but vocal group of people on this forum have gone into full crusade mode the moment the news got released. Fanboys at its worst... The vast majority of the forum users seem to simply acknowledge the news and look forward to more info and hopefully a decent WW2 flightsim.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ParaB

It's not the "community". The problem is that a very small but vocal group of people on this forum have gone into full crusade mode the moment the news got released. Fanboys at its worst... The vast majority of the forum users seem to simply acknowledge the news and look forward to more info and hopefully a decent WW2 flightsim.

Of course it problem now that the roles have reversed, don't recall you making a post about all the rof fanboys smear campaign...

double standards...

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Hooves

This ^ for f's sake guys, its dead,

Cods not dead! I was playing it last night. Still worked fine for me!

What’s happened is that it's got it's nuts cut off! Hopefully they have been cryogenically stored so that in the future the parts of the 'DNA' can be re-examined and the good bits can be used to progress the development of flight simulations

It may not be the natural order of things but there is always hope!

[klem]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Can't really understand the amount of dislike and hostility here. IL-2 took the plunge and is dead, long live the king. It is now transferring to a new engine and we do NOT know if it will be exactly the same or DirectX 11 for example. Too much speculation going on. We all want a sim but still keep bitching about it like kids. Sad. Better give it a shot when released rather than biotch about it and not even giving it a chance.

Not strictly correct. Only the name has been transferred to a different engine (not new by any means). Also it will not be DX11 it will be DX9 as stated by Jason. They MAY consider upgrading to Dx11 in the future but as that will be after the 2014 release (barring slippage) we can guess that it may not be Dx11 until say 2016/2018, if ever.

The dislike and hostility is generally an outpouring of anger and grief following the stopping of "SoW" along with the suspicion that BoS will not live up to CoD player's expectations.

The whole of this week following the announcement has been like a funeral.