To luthier and team

[vranac]

Originally Posted by Cranky

Nah, I wont forget all the bull crap he gave us before release, the faked 'leaked video' showing the game running well, and then the Epilepsy filter lie, then the SLI bollocks, then the SDK, the merge with BOM.... etc etc etc.

Now, you will enjoy nice little furball over Stalingrad maybe in 2014 with no ground targets or only few of them that the new ND egine supports Tree ?

Are you happy now ?


Edit : Thank you very much Luthier and the team for trying to give us WW2 flightsim !

We got one but I was hoping for sequels.

[BigC208]

It sucks that the new il2 series is stillborn. What we have right now is playable and I was looking forward to other theatres. The CloD engine looked perfect for the air to ground combat on the Eastern Front. Since this is not going to happen I'm looking forward to see what the merged team can come up with.

I have been playing RoF since it was released. Bought pretty much all aircraft and think they have a good bussiness model. What made RoF work for me is all the unknown aircraft from the era. Just fun to see what they could do. With WWII I'm much more familiar and know allready that I won't be buying more than maybe 10 aircraft. In Il2-1946 and RoF I ended up flying maybe 5 aircraft on a regular basis. So, if you want me to buy airplanes you better also sell me the theatre maps to go with the planes.

Goodbye Luthier and thanks for at least having the program stable before deepsixing it! Still keeping my fingers crossed that in a year or 5 someone ressurects it with better average hardware around.

[Bearcat]

Is it just me or is there not a huge DUHHH to be placed in here somewhere.. Some of you people act as if IL2 is dead..

Dear Pilots,
Today we announced a new partnership between 1C and 777 Studios and the next product in the Sturmovik legacy – IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad.

Both 1C and 777 Studios have entered into this arrangement with the best of intentions, which are to make quality combat flight simulation products that you enjoy (Rise of Flight, IL-2 Sturmovik). Both companies share a deep desire to see the flight-simulation genre succeed and thrive. And both companies have already spent millions of dollars and countless sleepless nights trying to make products that the flight-simulation community loves. We believe our past effortsare an indication that our motivations in this genre are sincere and our dedication to this niche of PC gaming has always been and will remain strong.
This development may come as a surprise to some in the community, but we are not here to argue about it.
By combining the best talent, management and technology we feel that it will be easier to overcome the technical, financial and industry related challenges that are unique to the flight-simulation genre. But it’s still not going to be easy and we still need the community’s support. There is no unlimited budget or endless release schedule. We hope that all of the virtual pilots out there in the community understand the challenges we face and will choose to stand with us in this new enterprise and help us make a brighter future for the entire combat flight-simulation genre.
We’re sure you will have questions about the upcoming product.
Warmest Regards,
The Team
IL-2 Sturmovik
Rise of Flight

I say .. the king is dead.. LONG LIVE THE KING..

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Is it just me or is there not a huge DUHHH to be placed in here somewhere.. Some of you people act as if IL2 is dead..

If you have ever played, built missions, or seen the limitations placed on ROF because of it's engine, you would realize IL2 is dead after this announcement.

As I've already said, if they can't fix the limitations in 4 years on their current game engine. How do you magically believe they are gonna fix it and build a WWII sim (in reality take 2 years to model a map and WWII planes and slap them on the ROF engine)?

It's pretty obvious. Heck it's even coming out in DX9. They should of released what they had for BoM and the SDK and let the players figure it out.

Duh is exactly right.

And when the only Maddox team members they kept were the modelers (not the programmers) that should be your 1st hint.

[Feathered_IV]

I wouldn't get too worried yet. Making the new sim is a very good opportunity to get in there and address those current limitations of the DN engine. This could well be very good for both titles.

On topic, no mention was made of Luthier in the announcements. Is he still working for 1c, or are the earlier rumors about him departing actually true?

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

I wouldn't get too worried yet. Making the new sim is a very good opportunity to get in there and address those current limitations of the DN engine. This could well be very good for both titles.
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Good Point Feathered.

A year is a very long time in the Sim Development. What ever the out come, it will sure be an interesting ride.

[Buster_Dee]

Thanks Oleg and Luthier--wherever you are.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

I wouldn't get too worried yet. Making the new sim is a very good opportunity to get in there and address those current limitations of the DN engine. This could well be very good for both titles.

That's my point.. way too early to start crying in the beer for sure.

[hiro]

yeah, a big thanks to

Luthier and team for keeping it going this long . . . and to Oleg also for starting it up

Even though I joked about ROF, I feel this is the catalyst to return IL 2 successor(s) back to awesomeness. Only time will tell how great the new series will be. At last 777 dedication to ROF and the new IL-2 iteration will prove to be a winner.

[BigC208]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

That's my point.. way too early to start crying in the beer for sure.

Nope, this is the time to cry in your beer. The CloD engine with it's magnificently detailed ground targets is gone. All the future stuff we've been drooling over is gone. I was more enamored with the sims potential than what we actually have right now. The new program is not going to be mergeable with CloD. There were still a lot of little things that needed to be fixed. This was going to be accomplished with BoM this spring or summer but that's now off the table.

I don't know about you Bearcat, but I've been looking forward to CloD since 2006. Built two computers specifically for it and have a bit of a foul taste in my mouth of how this all played out. I was looking forward to the new series and a better GUI. Really hoped to have a GUI like Il2-1946 with the ability to set up quick missions on the fly. Like you said, the King is dead. let's give him his due respect.

Thanks Luthier for the 300 plus hours of enjoyment I had with CloD.