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Old 09-02-2008, 10:15 AM
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(shakes head)

I had thought I made it abundantly clear that I understood that O2 starvation is different for each person.
Apologies, I was agreeing but it didn't really come across that way after re-reading what I wrote.

I'm undecided if it should be modelled given your points but how do you work faults in the system? Given there will be no random faults in Storm of War then it would have to be down to damage taken by the aircraft. I don't know if a refuel and rearm in co-ops is on the card but I assume in the time taken to refuel and rearm a plane getting an O2 bottle changed over wouldn't be a problem, if it needed to be changed at all until the end of the day (does this sort of data exist in pilot manuals for the Spitfire, Hurricane and 109?). Especially given a sortie might only last an hour or so.

I'd like to see oxygen bottles modelled from a DM point of view, simply because one exploding is fatal is allot of cases but with the oxygen system, assuming the pipes and whatnot are modelled its a case of how do you let it affect the pilot? I guess like the negative/positive G model already in IL2, where each pilot has the same limits.
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:44 AM
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As a pilot in the US, I'm required to wear oxygen at altitudes that are lower than I've hiked, however the degree of mental challenge involved in hiking is just a bit different than that posed by flying! Also, physiological consequences of low O2 saturation tend to manifest in ways that a pilot will find difficult to recognize since many of the symptoms actually mask themselves. For this reason many pilots opt to wear a pulse oximeter to monitor O2 sat on the fly, so to speak.

Since you probably don't really care about the legal aspects of oxygen use by aircrews (but if you do take a look here: http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part91-211-FAR.shtml) take a look at the data for "time of useful consciousness" which gives a pretty good generic answer to your question. Technically most people will have many symptoms of hypoxia much sooner than these charts list, but these charts are aimed at how long a pilot has sufficient mental ability to continue to perform required duties - not the time before any impairment at all.

[edit] Here's one such table:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of..._Consciousness

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Old 09-06-2008, 03:30 AM
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Interesting subject. Was looking up painless death a few months ago (long story), and discovered it's possible to die without even noticing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_hunger
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