devs didn't like bears

[Razorflame]

just but what i truly mean is

(spells not including to get a bear into hibernation)

it's just the diversion skill

It saves u mana/rage by not having to pay attention for that bears for 2 turns

which is a HUGE difference in some fights

i can understand blind/fear w/e u put on a bear to prevent it from moving and going into hybernation but that cost u mana to do it(also a bit lame but still)

whereas the diversion skill only costing u runes and if u get lucky u get 2 free turn against bears

hence i said let the bear have a ability to go into hibernation with a reload of 1 or 2 or something problem fixed

it's kinda stupid by clicking defense that a bear will go to sleep if it hasn't moved

[ckdamascus]

Diversion is a fantastic supplemental skill and was paramount for a lot of my victories as a Viking/Warrior in my first play through. I don't see why put any exception for bears. (Maybe deep down I hate them too... traumatized by too many fights in Bolo in Armored Princess).

As you said, diversion is based on luck. While I think it is a good skill, it is hardly a good use of early runes as I prefer to use runes on hard guarantees, not hoping it will work on a bear for 2 turns.

[Razorflame]

yes but diversion was intended to give u a chance of giving a enemy troop a % to skip it's first turn

AFAIK the bear is the only unit who get's penalized twice due to his hibernation mode

I don't think this was intended
or at least not thought through

[Zechnophobe]

Just a natural hazard of being a bear. Ogres steal their action points, they get blinded, or feared, or have no path to enemy = sleepy sleepy bears.

I think it's a minor issue. They should have used a different mechanism for determining hibernation. Maybe make it a special ability that you activate.

Actually, that'd make them kinda good early game. Activated ability that fully heals the current bear, but spends their turn. I could see it, especially for Polar bears.

[Nirual]

Come to think of it, WotN actually did a lot for bears. Battle Maiden raise their morale, the Honey artifact grows their numbers... not to mention they are one of the few neutral options early in the game.

[Nevar]

Ooh! What happens to Honey blocks when they run out of honey?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Nevar

Ooh! What happens to Honey blocks when they run out of honey?

Oh bother, Christopher Robin. We are out of ... HUNNEY!

[Nevar]

Aw, crap. Pooh bear frightens me to death.