No loss. . . how ?

[RaulIgnat]

Managed to do them with a bit of luck but still didnt found any decent spells or items. I guess i will fast clear all the way to leaving the island , if i still dont get anything good , i will most likely restart.
Tnx for the tips tho. Cheers

[Razorflame]

no problem

if u need any more advice just ask me
and u can always leave a save file here and let someone else do it

[ckdamascus]

Someone else doing it would be a nifty challenge for someone!

Also, there is usually a healing scroll on the right side of the map but you have to dig it up.

Maybe I just got super lucky but in my 2nd playthrough with a Mage, I still got it.

My 1st playthrough as a Viking/Warrior, I got about 4 Calls of Nature, and a lot of healing scrolls but... no way I could learn Order magic so it was a big trickier.

[RaulIgnat]

Started a new run and found 2 call of nature in the first stash , so it looks good so for

[torquemada]

Tell me this, how on earth do you plan on killing the spider boss without losses?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by torquemada

Tell me this, how on earth do you plan on killing the spider boss without losses?

Either 3 individual troll stacks, 2 individual troll stacks, or single troll stack.

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Either 3 individual troll stacks, 2 individual troll stacks, or single troll stack.

The undead spiders will kill your trolls fast if you don't have some backup, and that backup is gonna get casualty

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by torquemada

The undead spiders will kill your trolls fast if you don't have some backup, and that backup is gonna get casualty

Without preplanning, yes, otherwise, not necessarily.

I was particularly fortunate with my Viking/Warrior build as I had Slippery Cuirass and Twinkling Boots PLUS Shield of Rage.

This was not one of my shining moments in KB history, as the battle took over 100 rounds. I prefer much faster battles by far.

If you don't have Shield of Rage, this battle could take much longer.

This is where three separate stacks of troll is better. You keep trolls in the corner where they can only be hit by 2 spider stacks. You keep one 'weak' spider stack adjacent to one troll and the stack that gets "retaliated" against is the "dangerous" one.

You always attack the spider if he is in your corner.

Even when the spiders get up to 400 or so, as long as you 'defend' that round against the spider minions, you should be fine unless you are in melee against the spider boss (ergo, you need to recasting stoneskin and magic spring).

The spider's ranged "magic" attack is weaker, so you can tend to survive. Unfortunately, without Shield of Rage, the 'bad morale' curse might let a troll die that round.

Single 3 troll stack works with shield of rage fairly well, but I think when I did it, shield of rage was bugged (removed too often) and your problem is getting to the spider boss after he moves from one location to another AND getting webbed.

That said, I might go for the "beat spider boss in 10 round" achievement instead next time around. I was worried I would never find trolls again or I would use them immediately afterwards.

Neither ended up being true as I found over 230+ trolls later on and I was relying on horsemen was my meatshield, attacker, AND interceptor.