too easy on impossible!

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

just use one EGD stack(EGD=emerald green dragon)

cast invisiblity on them and then rain spells at em like there is no 2morrow

Didn't find GED either. Only reds, blacks and ice. Kinda funny. Any other army to use this tactics on ? I guess I need GED for mana purposes..right ?

@ironballs:

No way, my phoenix with 60 int still dies on one hit from any single enemy unit (just to make it clear, Zalnaron have bout 8k skeleton archers, 500 necromancers, 500 ancient vampires, 2x800 ghosts, 5k skeletons and appro 5x 6000 zombies)

[zjazd18]

8k archers wont even scratch paladins with stoneskin, 500 necro either, , 500 vampires aswell, 5k skeletons is a joke, 6k zombies might hurt but for them to get there will take some time, and u will have summons . So all u have to do is slow 2 stacks of ghosts, use burning and lightining rage.

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by zjazd18

8k archers wont even scratch paladins with stoneskin, 500 necro either, , 500 vampires aswell, 5k skeletons is a joke, 6k zombies might hurt but for them to get there will take some time, and u will have summons . So all u have to do is slow 2 stacks of ghosts, use burning and lightining rage.

Well as a Soothsayer, even with stone skin those vampires bites my paladins for 10-15 units on a hit. Ghosts arent really a problem, I'm able to almost kill them before they get to me, but after few rounds, I'm left with 1/2 paladins, about 20% of my whole army and still have to deal with vampires, zombies and skeletons/necros I could't finish.

Believe me, I've played The Legend, Armored Princess and Crossworlds many times, been thru many tough fights, but this one is really tricky. I need some abusive method, not cheating, but something I will be able to win with, no matter what I lose. The bad thing is I'm limited by units I can get (no Rune Mages and Green Dragons)

[ironballs]

did you upgraded the pehonix to the maximu (3rd) level spell?
the storngest hit I got for him was ~700 marauders (level 3 unit) that took about half his HP....

in any case, a few pointers to help the battle:
1. use any buffing wanderer scrolls you might have.
2. use the Valkyrie buff before the battle (gives +initiative & +movement).
3. remember the phoenix attacks 3 adacjent enemies at 1 hit - so select to attack the weakest unit (so the retaliation will be the lowest) - and then all 3 will get the 'burning' state - which is deadly for large stacked units.

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by ironballs

did you upgraded the pehonix to the maximu (3rd) level spell?
the storngest hit I got for him was ~700 marauders (level 3 unit) that took about half his HP....

in any case, a few pointers to help the battle:
1. use any buffing wanderer scrolls you might have.
2. use the Valkyrie buff before the battle (gives +initiative & +movement).
3. remember the phoenix attacks 3 adacjent enemies at 1 hit - so select to attack the weakest unit (so the retaliation will be the lowest) - and then all 3 will get the 'burning' state - which is deadly for large stacked units.

Of course, I have almost all my spells at lv 3. With 16 defense, its not problem for Zalaron's units to do 2,5k+ dmg to my phoenix in single hit.
1. I do
2. I do
3. I know

I need some tricky and clever tactic, that's all.

[zjazd18]

Originally Posted by Lancian

Well as a Soothsayer, even with stone skin those vampires bites my paladins for 10-15 units on a hit. Ghosts arent really a problem, I'm able to almost kill them before they get to me, but after few rounds, I'm left with 1/2 paladins, about 20% of my whole army and still have to deal with vampires, zombies and skeletons/necros I could't finish.

Believe me, I've played The Legend, Armored Princess and Crossworlds many times, been thru many tough fights, but this one is really tricky. I need some abusive method, not cheating, but something I will be able to win with, no matter what I lose. The bad thing is I'm limited by units I can get (no Rune Mages and Green Dragons)

Well im telling you how i did it recently on somebody else mage char so strategy is viable. Just replace one unit with royal thorns, u will have 3 summoning units. As for my own playthrough this fight was a joke on paladin hero.

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by zjazd18

Well im telling you how i did it recently on somebody else mage char so strategy is viable. Just replace one unit with royal thorns, u will have 3 summoning units. As for my own playthrough this fight was a joke on paladin hero.

Are we talking about impossible ?
Well I will try to replace rangers for thorns and see if it makes any good.

[zjazd18]

Originally Posted by Lancian

Are we talking about impossible ?
Well I will try to replace rangers for thorns and see if it makes any good.

I'm playing on imposs, but that mage was on hard if i remember correctly. You can provide save and i'll try to help you more, coz my paladin is just op at this point, and im having no fun finishing game.

[Bel1eve]

I beat that fight as 32 soothsayer with 70% of your stats.
Get ancient ents from elf island / 5lvl from orc underground castle, cyclops or trolls or whatever he sells(East island i think).
Greasy mist + phoenix + Peacefulness on palas/ents spam defend and fire arrows etc.

Now I've been stuck for 2 days at Ele Taera at 37 with 12k leadership/15 atk/20def/34int 100 mana , red dragons,ogres,ents,cyclopes,catapult.Its really impossible for soothsayer i think.

[Lancian]

FINALLY MADE IT !

The one and only trick that was really needed was to get enough tanky units and start with greasy mist+gudridas rage+fire rain. Even when my trolls and black dragons died both in round 2 (dunno how but 6k enemy skeleton archers just one shotted my black drags even under greasy mist :O), I have managed to burn those undead scumbags to ashes with phoenix and paladins under iron skin.
Yeah and...only 30 paladins of my 19k leadership army survived

But hey ! Impossible is possible !