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Old 11-09-2012, 01:19 AM
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did it (see attachment): Printed on 90cm x 102cm Tyvek, an almost untearable paperlike material used for maps, constructing plans, and the like. Paid €28 - but it really is worth it.

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Sry Artist, I just see that you have written.
Sounds great, but €28? I'm glad if you feel that it worth it.
I didn't found similar material when I was looking for printing solutions, but the paper is good enough for me. I was laminated the paper, then I can draw attack plan on it (it was used on weekend-sowc )
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:44 AM
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Sounds great, but €28? I'm glad if you feel that it worth it.
I am not telling you what I paid for the printing of the cards I got the french part now, too (see attachments). Same material as the other one.

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I didn't found similar material when I was looking for printing solutions, but the paper is good enough for me.
Well it's called Tyvek (or Tywek) and in my local print/copyshop they got it from hewlett packard. It comes in a 17 feet, 36 inch (5m by 914mm) role. The printer itself (hp, too) costs about a middle sized car, they told me.

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I was laminated the paper, then I can draw attack plan on it (it was used on weekend-sowc )
In earlier times they used transparent paper laid over the map (and then kept it for the archives).

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I am not telling you what I paid for the printing of the cards I got the french part now, too (see attachments). Same material as the other one.


Well it's called Tyvek (or Tywek) and in my local print/copyshop they got it from hewlett packard. It comes in a 17 feet, 36 inch (5m by 914mm) role. The printer itself (hp, too) costs about a middle sized car, they told me.

In earlier times they used transparent paper laid over the map (and then kept it for the archives).

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I can imagine, 130 page plus covers isn't cheap...
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:35 PM
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I took one step further with the map, as it it rather big (90cm by 102cm, see my earlier post in this thread) and difficult to handle/fold during flight: I applied the Falk Patented Folding. There's no article on this ingenious idea in the English wikipedia (just in the German one), so a short explanation here (and pictures):

This special way of folding a big map and cutting slits at certain places allows to leaf through the folded map both horizontally and vertically - while never exceeding a total unfolded size of much, much less than the whole map. In my case I choose a leaf-through size of 25 by 25.5 cm and folded and cut accordingly.

The pictures in this (and - due to the limitation of max 5 images per post - the next post) show the folded map, the vertical and horizontal leafing, and finally the first step of unfolding the whole map.
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Falk Folding continued
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I do not cut the map, but I folding that the whole plan will be visible
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Tom. Quite outstanding. I will be linking to your documents from my 616sqn.tidesofwar.net website for CloD.

I had wanted to do something similar. I realise it is a huge peice of work and I doubt you want to develope it further from its excellent state. The only thing I would ask is that, being a Fleet Air Arm pilot, I would love the Royal Naval Airstations (with their "Ship" Names) to be identified from the RAF and Civilain fields. Maybe just changing the names in the "Enroute Supplement".

RNAS Ford - HMS Peregrine
RNAS Gosport - HMS Siskin
RNAS Heathrow
RNAS Lee-on-Solent - HMS Daedelas
RNAS Lymne - HMS Buzzard
RNAS Worthy Down - HMS Kestral

Heree is a reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...the_Royal_Navy

Many thanks for your consideration.

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Well it's called Tyvek (or Tywek) and in my local print/copyshop they got it from hewlett packard. It comes in a 17 feet, 36 inch (5m by 914mm) role. The printer itself (hp, too) costs about a middle sized car, they told me.

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I used to work for Wiggins Teape so know about Tyvek, we used to sell it. It's not a HP product though they may buy it, cut it and sell it in small packs for a big mark up. It is pretty expensive but you can't rip it and it's waterproof, so print it on this stuff and you're good for a long time
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Yes, its really durable and perfect for the Falk-folding (slits and all). Hp had its logo printed on the start-margin and *they* spelled it Tywek. I wonder who's the original manufacturer, DuPont?
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Hi Tom,

Fabulous map, I've printed it a number of times, hand glueing A3 sheets together. Excellent work - I love it. Use it all the time.
Mark it up, trash it, give away the used ones to friends.

I had to adjust the sizing a little when I printed, to make sure that the scale was correct for 1:500,000.

I also pushed the contrast a bit in Photoshop.
Made things a bit clearer for late night reading with these tired old eyes.

One thing I would like removed is the blue sector overlay.
Reason: The "Alpha-Oscar 4.7" identification system varies between each mission. So the blue sector overlay is only correct for a couple of missions. I'd rather have your beautiful map without the overlay.

Second I would change the scale markings in the margins slightly so that nautical miles / statute miles and Kilometers each have units (ones) instead of just kilometers having units.
If you remodel the scale bars they could maybe be separated by a couple of millimeters.
Reason: I plan routes by measuring the distance with a drawing compass and then lining that compass up on the scale bars. That distance divided by my airspeed gives me time on that heading. Since my airspeed is in miles I'd like to know distance in miles (to the nearest mile).

Third I would take out the Green magnetic declination line.
Reason: that is beautifully expressed by the compass rose in the top right. And there are already two Magnetic Declination lines on the original map (a 10 degrees W 1942 and a 9 degreees 1942) and in the margin.

Lastly I would like the AFBs ICON and name layer as a separate image.
Reason: Details. In some places the text is hard to read or obscures the detail underneath.
Examples:
1) In the top left of the map, the names Yatesbury, Watchfield, Harwell, White Watham, Harwell, Reading etc are already on the map.
The convention seems to be font: ARIAL for AFBs and font: Times New Roman Italic for Towns.
2) Also in the top left of the map there are a number of AFBs that are not in the mission but are on the map. Bibury, Witney, Brize Norton, Abingdon etc.

Personally I would change my AFBs layer so that:
1) The AFB Icon has a Runway.
2) The AFB Code is in Capital Bold Arial.
3) Where the AFB Name already exists on the map don't write it out again.
4) If the AFB name doesn't exist, add it in Regular Arial.

I'm happy to do the grunt work on this if you are able to output a version without the layers I have suggested.

Here is an example of the proposed before and after on the AFBs layer and the contrast boost.
If you PM me we can dropbox.
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