Bugs Thread

[Nirual]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Hmmm I experienced a lot of "0/1" coffins, traps, obstacles as well. I can't take them out without explicitly attacking them (e.g., flame flood from red dragon doesn't break them anymore).

Gotta correct myself. Yes, the coffins also have 0/1, possibly other objects too. Powder Kegs are the only ones that are instantly destroyed at the start of battle however. And yes, these objects are immune to area effects and spells now, which I actually consider a good thing. AI seems less eager to destroy them now aswell.

Regarding spells and transmute, I think that was how it worked back in Armored Princess. One of the big reasons why I felt nuking spell casters were at a distinct disadvantage. I couldn't spell nuke my way to victory without costing a lot of REAL time loss (waiting for mana to regenerate).

Could be. I wasn't much of a nuker in AP, but I love myself some Blizzard now, which is why I noticed this.

[camelotcrusade]

Originally Posted by Thorbalden

i don't know if ii's only my bug or it's suppose to be that way
royal griffin get -2 for having dragon(ice dragon) in the army. BUT i have persuasion 3( -1/2/3 =0), and yet -2 moral for royal griffins

Interesting. If I recall correctly griffons have a special trait that makes them hate dragons, so I think what is happening is that persuasion impacts first (basically no change, since both units are neutral and have no inherent penalty to each other) and then the specific trait layers on. So I think it's WAI.

What happens if you have max points in the one below it (forget the name) to give most unit types +1 morale (including neutral)? Does it net out to -1?

[camelotcrusade]

Another thing I just noticed, post-patch (build 6249). My tooltip no longer tells me how many units I will resurrect with sacrifice or with the maidens call of valhalla ability. That makes it difficult to know whether I should use level 1, 2, or 3 sacrifice. Ugh.

Can anyone else confirm this? Is it the same with the actual resurrect spell and/or inquisitors?

[Thorbalden]

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

Interesting. If I recall correctly griffons have a special trait that makes them hate dragons, so I think what is happening is that persuasion impacts first (basically no change, since both units are neutral and have no inherent penalty to each other) and then the specific trait layers on. So I think it's WAI.

What happens if you have max points in the one below it (forget the name) to give most unit types +1 morale (including neutral)? Does it net out to -1?

I've done it. Royal grifins have -2 presen dragon and +1 skill oratory, but still persuasion have no effect with both maxed

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Thorbalden

I've done it. Royal grifins have -2 presen dragon and +1 skill oratory, but still persuasion have no effect with both maxed

I have a feeling this is NOT a bug, but another case of "misleading" wording.

Persuasion is only supposed to reduce natural inter-racial hatred. Not explicit hatred for each other.

So, elves don't like demons as a racial morale modifier, so persuasion works there.

However, royal griffins dislike dragons as a attribute/skill/talent which is NOT related to persuasion. It also wouldn't help Emerald Dragons and Giants either.

Also, the persuasion will not work at all until higher levels if the racial hate is that large (as somewhat indicated in the text description).

[ckdamascus]

Another bug
Dragon-informant quest from Professor Drotor

If you talk to him about the Dragons, and immediately say "Hey I got a talking dragon", you will lose a dragon, but the quest will not complete.

If you talk to him again, he will offer to take another dragon, which he does take and it DOES complete the quest, but it will cost you 2 dragons instead of 1.

Workaround, don't immediately say you have a dragon. Just say "I'll look for one". Go back, then offer the dragon. Only one dragon for the reward (as it should be!).

Valkyrie Set Bug
I dont' have any level 1-3 units, but suddenly I got slingers added to my reserve. It says it will only add a level 1-3 viking unit if I have some. I dont' have any.

Avenging Angel bug
Quite severe because even if I cast a spell on the enemy, they will take 1 dmg (if they are under the effect of Avenging Angel ala enemy skald), but it will NOT count against their avenging angel count.

I think that makes sense to not count against the avenging angel count, but it is insane that now half of their army is literally invincible unless I wait it out, dispel it, or sacrifice a unit to burn an avenging angel counter.

Skald/Caution bug?
That guy was dodging everything... heck, he even had a 0 stack with tons of negative health. You can tell I really didn't like him making his allies "invulnerable" to my spells.

Raven Bug?
After a battle, apparently I can keep feeding him things. I tried feeding him an ent sprout, instant crash to desktop. I tried with -dev, no difference or any logs. Just instant crash. Thorn spouts are OK though. Also a counter on when he is done would be nice.

bug -- this shows up when I first enter a battle.
lua_isnumber( m_pLuaVM, iIndex)
File: spells_common.lua line: 30

bug demon -- this occurs when the demon kills something. I'm not sure where the "class2power_mod" function is declared though.
addon_arena.lua:1907: attempt to call global class2power_mod (a nil value)

[Nirual]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Avenging Angel bug
Quite severe because even if I cast a spell on the enemy, they will take 1 dmg (if they are under the effect of Avenging Angel ala enemy skald), but it will NOT count against their avenging angel count.

I think that makes sense to not count against the avenging angel count, but it is insane that now half of their army is literally invincible unless I wait it out, dispel it, or sacrifice a unit to burn an avenging angel counter.

Best of all dispelling it won't even change the damage taken by that unit, at least not right away.

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

@Rork interesting, I thought only ghost blade was supposed to ignore magic resistance. Has anyone else confirmed magic axe working on magic immune enemies in build 6249? Maybe some of their tweaks introduced it.
If anyone else has seen any of these bugs persisting across builds let me know.

All spells that deal physical damage can affect magic immune enemies from what I've seen. Dance of Winter, Frost Snake area damage, Geyser (only the physical portion, as far as I can tell). this makes me think magic immunity has been changed slightly and the description is somewhat misleading.

[camelotcrusade]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Another bug
Dragon-informant quest from Professor Drotor

If you talk to him about the Dragons, and immediately say "Hey I got a talking dragon", you will lose a dragon, but the quest will not complete.

If you talk to him again, he will offer to take another dragon, which he does take and it DOES complete the quest, but it will cost you 2 dragons instead of 1.

Workaround, don't immediately say you have a dragon. Just say "I'll look for one". Go back, then offer the dragon. Only one dragon for the reward (as it should be!).

Valkyrie Set Bug
I dont' have any level 1-3 units, but suddenly I got slingers added to my reserve. It says it will only add a level 1-3 viking unit if I have some. I dont' have any.

Avenging Angel bug
Quite severe because even if I cast a spell on the enemy, they will take 1 dmg (if they are under the effect of Avenging Angel ala enemy skald), but it will NOT count against their avenging angel count.

I think that makes sense to not count against the avenging angel count, but it is insane that now half of their army is literally invincible unless I wait it out, dispel it, or sacrifice a unit to burn an avenging angel counter.

Skald/Caution bug?
That guy was dodging everything... heck, he even had a 0 stack with tons of negative health. You can tell I really didn't like him making his allies "invulnerable" to my spells.

Raven Bug?
After a battle, apparently I can keep feeding him things. I tried feeding him an ent sprout, instant crash to desktop. I tried with -dev, no difference or any logs. Just instant crash. Thorn spouts are OK though. Also a counter on when he is done would be nice.

bug -- this shows up when I first enter a battle.
lua_isnumber( m_pLuaVM, iIndex)
File: spells_common.lua line: 30

bug demon -- this occurs when the demon kills something. I'm not sure where the "class2power_mod" function is declared though.
addon_arena.lua:1907: attempt to call global class2power_mod (a nil value)

I've added or updated all of these through the skald's caution, which was already listed. I'm not sure about the last three. When does the raven start item items in the inventory? Can you only use that option when you have sprouts or eggs in your inventory (never tried talking to him with those). For the other two, I have not seen those popups so I'd like to confirm with others before posting.

[Thorbalden]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

I have a feeling this is NOT a bug, but another case of "misleading" wording.

Persuasion is only supposed to reduce natural inter-racial hatred. Not explicit hatred for each other.

So, elves don't like demons as a racial morale modifier, so persuasion works there.

However, royal griffins dislike dragons as a attribute/skill/talent which is NOT related to persuasion. It also wouldn't help Emerald Dragons and Giants either.

Also, the persuasion will not work at all until higher levels if the racial hate is that large (as somewhat indicated in the text description).

True, and what about regal abilitie from royal griffin, is supposte to increase moral for humans, i've paladin and rune mage still no bonus

[Fatt_Shade]

@Thorbalden

True, and what about regal abilitie from royal griffin, is supposte to increase moral for humans, i've paladin and rune mage still no bonus

Same thing for knight/horseman. Regal works for 1-3 lvl human units.
In Ap/Cw Cheer works for humans, elves here it`s same. What about vikings ??? Are viking not human sub race, or are they alien or . . . ?
Regal should work for 1-3 lvl vikings also.