Bugs Thread

[BB Shockwave]

There is a 45 page long Bug thread now, and the game has barely been out 3 weeks... That has to be a new record. The last time I have seen such a bugfest was with Temple of Elemental Evil, and that game was self-admittedly released well before it was finished at the urge of the publisher. Oh, and Heroes of Might and Magic Online (the Chinese MMO), but then, I'd barely call a strategy game that requires you to LOSE as many troops as you can to upgrade them a "game". More like a chore.

I now wonder - what reviews did the game got so far online? I figure most reviewers would just start it and add their review instantly without delving into it, thinking "this is the fourth game in the same installment, and at first look, looks and works the same as the 3 before it..." - but if they do a more through walkthrough, they will discover some of the more fatal and annoying bugs? Because in that case, expect scores of 1-2 or 20%.

Which brings me to the question we all have been asking... does 1C even care? The game is unplayeable right now due to the horrible amount of bugs, there is no official reaction so far about a patch, and people who bought the game should be rightfully pissed. It should not be up to the players to discover and fix bugs.

I wonder if this will have any impact on the testers of the game, who - we can say this with utter certainity - have done a really shoddy job.

[hotfix666]

Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

There is a 45 page long Bug thread now, and the game has barely been out 3 weeks... That has to be a new record. The last time I have seen such a bugfest was with Temple of Elemental Evil, and that game was self-admittedly released well before it was finished at the urge of the publisher. Oh, and Heroes of Might and Magic Online (the Chinese MMO), but then, I'd barely call a strategy game that requires you to LOSE as many troops as you can to upgrade them a "game". More like a chore.

I now wonder - what reviews did the game got so far online? I figure most reviewers would just start it and add their review instantly without delving into it, thinking "this is the fourth game in the same installment, and at first look, looks and works the same as the 3 before it..." - but if they do a more through walkthrough, they will discover some of the more fatal and annoying bugs? Because in that case, expect scores of 1-2 or 20%.

Which brings me to the question we all have been asking... does 1C even care? The game is unplayeable right now due to the horrible amount of bugs, there is no official reaction so far about a patch, and people who bought the game should be rightfully pissed. It should not be up to the players to discover and fix bugs.

I wonder if this will have any impact on the testers of the game, who - we can say this with utter certainity - have done a really shoddy job.

Im happy the game price not was 49€

[RCDOWN]

Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

Which brings me to the question we all have been asking... does 1C even care?

I think you're wrong at full.

First they pinned the bug topic and let the community discuss it.
Other companies, thrust me, don't do the same and even ban whoever criticize their product.

The game is unplayeable right now due to the horrible amount of bugs, there is no official reaction so far about a patch

Game is playable, only need to be fixed in some part.
Also, they relase an official patch and you can use the community workaround for other problem.
Read all this discussion, please.

and people who bought the game should be rightfully pissed. It should not be up to the players to discover and fix bugs.

Yes and no.
Because you can always ask a steam refound, if you are unhappy. So...

I wonder if this will have any impact on the testers of the game, who - we can say this with utter certainity - have done a really shoddy job.

Have you ever before make a game test?
You can work 1000 hours and not discover any bug because dozen of factor come at hand.
Also, you need founds to test 100% your product and no game company nowaday can affort this, because develope a game cost time, resource, maketing, and you must pay in advance only (sadly) to discover someone has blocked you game because in their country censorship o market got different standard.

Pal, you can wine if you want, but the best choice in this scenario is to do a contribution to make a good game even better or whait until the bug are fixed in full (1-2 month, and you get a shortened price as well)

Be calm

[Mandea]

Other companies, trust me, don't ask 30euro for a product with so many bugs.

it has nothing to do with wine, spare us this bullshit please.

1000 hours and no bugs? come on, this is ridiculous, I've encountered at least 20 different bugs in 80hours playtime. I don't believe there is a single person who hasn't while playing WOTN. the game is riddled with bugs. this game hasn't been tested, period. not 100%, not even 30%.
if you are happy with this game you should stop posting because the problems obviously don't concern you.

How much are they paying you to post this crap???

[Colbert30]

I noticed units retaliating more than they normally should with the last hero spell cast by the skald unit. I don't remember reading that on the spell description. Is that intended?

[RCDOWN]

Originally Posted by Mandea

if you are happy with this game you should stop posting because the problems obviously don't concern you.

I'm not happy, i just try to make the game better for my enjoyment

How much are they paying you to post this crap???

Nothing. I can assure you.
I simply liked the Kb series from the beginning, and want this game working 100% and a next episode as soon as possible.
Keep the dev motivated is a way to get it.

[Mandea]

yeah right, I hope you're not expecting me to trust you after all that rubish. The game is full of bugs, it's a fact. some of them are hard to see, but most are not.

[Fatt_Shade]

@RCDOWN

First they pinned the bug topic and let the community discuss it.
Other companies, thrust me, don't do the same and even ban whoever criticize their product.

Well if they pinned a tread in forum then all problems are solved. I can make new tread here and post that i`m doing all i can to fix game problems, does it make true ? NO

Game is playable, only need to be fixed in some part.
Also, they release an official patch and you can use the community workaround for other problem.
Read all this discussion, please.

Game is not payable, i haven even started my first play but checked game files to see what works how , and run into bunch of problems http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=34036&page=3 post #26
And game dont need fix in some part, because things that worked great in previous games theLegend , AP/CW are total crap now and swarming in errors (skills, spells, items etc). Wonder is how devs something that worked before implemented in this expansion and manage to broke it down completely.
About patch, and me using community workaround for problems not fixed in it , players bought game to play not to work on it. If we are extended bugfix crew shouldnt we get payed then ? WTF is your way of thinking to buy something and then instead using it spend all your free time to make it function. Any other product released this shoddy would be returned in 100% and asked for refunds by all customers.

You can work 1000 hours and not discover any bug because dozen of factor come at hand.
Also, you need founds to test 100% your product and no game company nowadays can afford this

I read this forum allot and i see couple of hundreds of different users in first 10 days of game release posting 40 pages of bugs all different, and you tell us that in 1000 hours game testing could be possible to miss all of those bug. NO! They simply didnt test this game.
Implemented some new units (viking race) , spells/items and little changes like that. But just stick it on the Legend base (70% locations are just copy/paste from there). If they called this expansion and it work there wouldnt be any problems i think. But this f...ed release called NEW game is pure and simple LIE. End of story.
The Legend and AP/CW didnt have this many bugs on release, and both were very different so lots of work was needed to make them final products (in AP was also editor new byproduct needing time and effort to make) and it all worked better then WotN.
I`m not saying they must 100% test game , but this didnt even got installed on some personal computer to be checked if it even works.
As for no company doing whole game test before release, 1C have 800 employees and have released bunch of other games, this isnt their first job in this area. 1c isnt only to blame, Katauri dropped ball on this also it was their job to make game work, and 1C to test and see what needs more fixing .But in the end it gets to players here to do their job for them.
And you say we should be happy we dont get banned from forum for telling truth about bugs in game. You are customer , and have right for your own apinion about something you bought at least express it in free manner.

[Colbert30]

I know it's not my call to make but, please guys, don't derail the discussion of this thread. This is already a 46 page long thread and Camelotcrusade and others are doing an excellent job at finding/cathegorizing and posting bugs so that devs can fix them. It is a difficult enough job without the need to go through off-topic stuff.

TY!