Graphics engine from original IL2 utilised in CloD. So what hope for BoM?

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by vranac

If you see that some pilots still have problems with this new optimised ones you could uderstand the reason why devs did thatnd.

What "optimised " clouds are you talking about? They did not optimised the clouds. On my machine they are more resource hungry then before.
I used to mke missions just to try that "local weather" engine in full mission builder, with a huge area covered by clouds and it worked on my computer. The frame rate was bad, but it worked. If you look at the "local wether" in the full mission builder, when you add clouds, you get a very small are covered by default. I used to add two zeros to the first two entries and that would give you a decent size covered. I tried multiple layers at different altitudes. It worked.
Now the game crashes when I try a single layer.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by vranac

With all due respect you are talking mostly about optimizations they did to achieve better performance and IIRC you was also one of the many people who were complaining about poor performace until you upgraded your PC.

On the other way this sim was performing good on my PC after first few patches.It was playable even with old clouds and a lot of them, FPS drop was there but I could fight arround them without a problem.
If you see that some pilots still have problems with this new optimised ones you could uderstand the reason why devs did that.

I am happy that for most of the pilots sim is playable now and performing much better than before.
That also can be seen in number of players online.

You could try to solve your problem with poping houses and trees by putting them on max but I don't know if your PC will stand.

Very true complaints ruined some good features, for now anyway.

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

What "optimised " clouds are you talking about? They did not optimised the clouds. On my machine they are more resource hungry then before.
I used to mke missions just to try that "local weather" engine in full mission builder, with a huge area covered by clouds and it worked on my computer. The frame rate was bad, but it worked. If you look at the "local wether" in the full mission builder, when you add clouds, you get a very small are covered by default. I used to add two zeros to the first two entries and that would give you a decent size covered. I tried multiple layers at different altitudes. It worked.
Now the game crashes when I try a single layer.

I am fully enjoying the pre-optimised clouds, I will have to try that trick of yours to add two zeros

[Chivas]

"I mean even tree collisions were removed and these were in the original?"

The original trees on this huge map brought the sim to its knees. The only way they could put enough trees on the map was licencing "SpeedTree". Unfortunately putting a collision model on the "SpeedTree" program would also bring the sim to its knees.

There is very little I like about "SpeedTree", and hopefully the development will be able optimize them or replace them with something better. You can't see the forests for the trees making visual navigation difficult in COD.

[=GI=Joel]

I did get tense 4 weeks ago with CLOD, then I remembered playing il2 v1.0; I think around 2000- 2001. Then I remember playing forgotten battles in 2003. Then "shit" Pacific fighters 2005 and finally 1946 in 2007. Then the penny dropped.....

[vranac]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

What "optimised " clouds are you talking about? They did not optimised the clouds. On my machine they are more resource hungry then before.
I used to mke missions just to try that "local weather" engine in full mission builder, with a huge area covered by clouds and it worked on my computer. The frame rate was bad, but it worked. If you look at the "local wether" in the full mission builder, when you add clouds, you get a very small are covered by default. I used to add two zeros to the first two entries and that would give you a decent size covered. I tried multiple layers at different altitudes. It worked.
Now the game crashes when I try a single layer.

I didn't tried that in the FMB.I'am flying only online.

Before optimization ATAG guys couldn't put clouds at all because lot of pilots had big problems.Now they have some clouds in missions.

Lots of old clouds I tried on another server,I dont remember the name, but there were 10-15 pilots.I spawned in France and there was a lot of clouds.
I thought that this would be unplayable on 560.But on the contrary when I was flying between them FPS varied between 30 and 45.
Only noticable thing was when looking arround view wasn't smooth.
With this new clouds everything is smooth at least for me and I didn't hear complaints on TS like before.