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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-23-2012, 10:10 AM
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including this final patch the last one uped by steam 1.11.20362 ,

so in answer to your question yes in servers with official steam patches.

and i see those links are dead but those mods and more still are available.
I think the way to solve it is to report this cheating procedure to Steam VAC managers. VAC is a service Steam provides to game publishers and they are interested in improving it. This is how it works with other games: players report cheats and they fix it. There is no chance they test CloD cheats themselves.

Anyone who knows how to use altered files online please write to Steam and explain the procedure. Otherwise this thread will be just a promotion for this cheating mod and more players will use it next week already.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:39 AM
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I think the way to solve it is to report this cheating procedure to Steam VAC managers. VAC is a service Steam provides to game publishers and they are interested in improving it. This is how it works with other games: players report cheats and they fix it. There is no chance they test CloD cheats themselves.

Anyone who knows how to use altered files online please write to Steam and explain the procedure. Otherwise this thread will be just a promotion for this cheating mod and more players will use it next week already.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:07 AM
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German penetration table for the commonplace 7,92mm SmK v round, at different ranges and angles, striking the armor plate directly (cont. lines) or indirectly (hitting a 3mm thick dural plate at 20 degrees 1,5 meters before the the armor plate).

For reference, the armor thickness on the Spitfire noted. I believe the Hurricane had the same thicknesses.

Apparanatly a lot was dependent on wheter the bullet hit anything before it struck armor plate. If not, it could go through it rather easily. I am not sure if the Spit had 3 mm thick dural plating on the fuselage (it seems unlikely to me, given that the 'deflector plate' cowling over the tank was only 3.5mm thick and it was considered to be a reinforced part to deflect bullets) but 20 degrees angle of impact and 1.5 meters of spacing does seem practical.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:47 PM
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German penetration table for the commonplace 7,92mm SmK v round, at different ranges and angles, striking the armor plate directly (cont. lines) or indirectly (hitting a 3mm thick dural plate at 20 degrees 1,5 meters before the the armor plate).

For reference, the armor thickness on the Spitfire noted. I believe the Hurricane had the same thicknesses.

Apparanatly a lot was dependent on wheter the bullet hit anything before it struck armor plate. If not, it could go through it rather easily. I am not sure if the Spit had 3 mm thick dural plating on the fuselage (it seems unlikely to me, given that the 'deflector plate' cowling over the tank was only 3.5mm thick and it was considered to be a reinforced part to deflect bullets) but 20 degrees angle of impact and 1.5 meters of spacing does seem practical.
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First of all, we're talking about the SmK (H) round, not the standard version. I have no issue with the standard AP round being included, it was part of the historical 109 7.92mm loadout, the SmK (H) was not, as mentioned previously the Dewilde was standard loadout, so was the M-Geschoss.

2nd, in relation to the penetrative abilities of the standard AP round, the only relevant line in your graph is the slashed one, showing the penetration after hitting duraluminum sheeting first, since in order to hit the pilot armour the round would need to penetrate the aircraft skin. Note also the chart does not take into account the effect of hitting one of the Spitfires aluminum struts or formers, much more substantial.

Lots of them.


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