Pilot kill after pilot kill. How do they do it??

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute Pegasus

The comments in the links you have posted are quite old.

However, they do indicate German players were flying with 109 mods on online servers.

There is much "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" about how the Luftwaffe side is doing well.

The question is, were those players flying on servers loaded with Beta patches, or were they flying on official Steam program servers?

There is a big difference between a Beta patched server and one loaded with an official Steam install.

including this final patch the last one uped by steam 1.11.20362 ,

so in answer to your question yes in servers with official steam patches.

and i see those links are dead but those mods and more still are available.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Pegasus_Eagle

including this final patch the last one uped by steam 1.11.20362 ,

so in answer to your question yes in servers with official steam patches.

and i see those links are dead but those mods and more still are available.

I think the way to solve it is to report this cheating procedure to Steam VAC managers. VAC is a service Steam provides to game publishers and they are interested in improving it. This is how it works with other games: players report cheats and they fix it. There is no chance they test CloD cheats themselves.

Anyone who knows how to use altered files online please write to Steam and explain the procedure. Otherwise this thread will be just a promotion for this cheating mod and more players will use it next week already.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Ataros

I think the way to solve it is to report this cheating procedure to Steam VAC managers. VAC is a service Steam provides to game publishers and they are interested in improving it. This is how it works with other games: players report cheats and they fix it. There is no chance they test CloD cheats themselves.

Anyone who knows how to use altered files online please write to Steam and explain the procedure. Otherwise this thread will be just a promotion for this cheating mod and more players will use it next week already.

+1.

[Kurfürst]

German penetration table for the commonplace 7,92mm SmK v round, at different ranges and angles, striking the armor plate directly (cont. lines) or indirectly (hitting a 3mm thick dural plate at 20 degrees 1,5 meters before the the armor plate).

For reference, the armor thickness on the Spitfire noted. I believe the Hurricane had the same thicknesses.

Apparanatly a lot was dependent on wheter the bullet hit anything before it struck armor plate. If not, it could go through it rather easily. I am not sure if the Spit had 3 mm thick dural plating on the fuselage (it seems unlikely to me, given that the 'deflector plate' cowling over the tank was only 3.5mm thick and it was considered to be a reinforced part to deflect bullets) but 20 degrees angle of impact and 1.5 meters of spacing does seem practical.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

German penetration table for the commonplace 7,92mm SmK v round, at different ranges and angles, striking the armor plate directly (cont. lines) or indirectly (hitting a 3mm thick dural plate at 20 degrees 1,5 meters before the the armor plate).

For reference, the armor thickness on the Spitfire noted. I believe the Hurricane had the same thicknesses.

Apparanatly a lot was dependent on wheter the bullet hit anything before it struck armor plate. If not, it could go through it rather easily. I am not sure if the Spit had 3 mm thick dural plating on the fuselage (it seems unlikely to me, given that the 'deflector plate' cowling over the tank was only 3.5mm thick and it was considered to be a reinforced part to deflect bullets) but 20 degrees angle of impact and 1.5 meters of spacing does seem practical.

Salute

First of all, we're talking about the SmK (H) round, not the standard version. I have no issue with the standard AP round being included, it was part of the historical 109 7.92mm loadout, the SmK (H) was not, as mentioned previously the Dewilde was standard loadout, so was the M-Geschoss.

2nd, in relation to the penetrative abilities of the standard AP round, the only relevant line in your graph is the slashed one, showing the penetration after hitting duraluminum sheeting first, since in order to hit the pilot armour the round would need to penetrate the aircraft skin. Note also the chart does not take into account the effect of hitting one of the Spitfires aluminum struts or formers, much more substantial.

Lots of them.