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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-22-2012, 05:28 PM
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Personally speaking, I never use the cannon's they are just too lethal on-line or off. Still there is a lot to be admired of the positioning and the target leading that goes on.
Here's his vid with canonless E1 on ATAG. Practically all kills are PKs
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:59 PM
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Here's his vid with canonless E1 on ATAG. Practically all kills are PKs

That is better, thank you...he has much talent
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:14 PM
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Here's his vid with canonless E1 on ATAG. Practically all kills are PKs
The video shows exactly the technique he commonly uses to get most of his kills.

Not a lot fancy maneuvering, an approach at altitude and speed, a quick sweep of the area of the Dunkirk field, looking for taking off and landing aircraft at lower alts and speed, a dive and single pass kill. When he has to make a couple passes, the usual zoom into vector roll and back down for another pass. He'll make his escape when he sees someone approaching co-alt or energy.

Most of these kills are due to failure on the part of the British pilot to notice their attacker, giving an easy 5/6/7 o'clock shot.

Notice the fact the angle on for many of the firing passes is such that pilot armour should, in my estimation, be a factor if he is only using MG rounds, but not sure whether armour is actually modelled, or whether the coverage or protection is accurate for British aircraft, so much of the modelling of this nationality has been completely wrong.

Historically British pilot armour would defeat 7.92 mm MG rounds, but not cannon.

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Old 10-22-2012, 10:09 PM
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Historically British pilot armour would defeat 7.92 mm MG rounds, but not cannon.
I think it can not stop tungsten AP rounds. If you load 100% AP this makes pilot completely unprotected, as if he sits in the air without any cover I guess. Thus PK comes with the first bullet that hits aircraft body.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:30 PM
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I think it can not stop tungsten AP rounds. If you load 100% AP this makes pilot completely unprotected, as if he sits in the air without any cover I guess. Thus PK comes with the first bullet that hits aircraft body.
And how many Tungsten rounds were used historically? Are you suggesting this was the standard loadout for the 7.92mm MG's?

I don't think so. This was a relatively rare strategic metal, not available in Germany, usually reserved for application in Anti-Tank rounds, in this time period for the 37mm and later for the 50mm.

It's typical of a 1C product that you have these options in terms of loadout or aircraft, which can be selected without any penalty or restriction, and which completely unbalance the game.

So you have the situation whereby people are flying E-1's in preference to E-3's because the armament is more effective... Complete nonsense.

Why did the historical Luftwaffe replace the wing 7.92's with 20mm if they were no more effective?

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