King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North Release Date Announced / Pre-Order Available

[Ragnin]

Originally Posted by saroumana

You can disable auto-update on steam, so what the problem ? Also you can ask to a refund if the game don't work.

I did disable the auto-updates and as Dwagginz pointed out it still forced updates on me. And there is still the problem of not being able to reinstall and choose which version i want.

And no they do not give refunds easily if at all. I bought a game from that was on sale for only $4. The game would not start at all, not on my nice computer, not on my older laptop. Both beat the min and recommend specs for the game but I could not get it to launch on either computer. I go and look at the forum's and see that a lot of people have the problem. I ask steam for a refund and they refuse, nothing I said would get me a refund. I also hate that I have to ask for everything via email with them because they don't want to have a call center. So then even simple things takes several days of email exchange to try to solve. Or if they do have a number its buried and not easy to find.

As for price I'm in the US so tend to be about the same as other places. I mostly used them for their sales.

I will point out that I generally have no problems running games with steamworks overall. If I receive a game code for steam as a gift I'll use it and play the game still. Other then the patching and refund thing most of my gripes with them are minor. I just don't feel like I should have to put up with all those things in order to play a game I paid for. I don't care about achievements, leaderboards or any of that other stuff so it's not worth it for me to have to put up with Steam just to get those things. And since this game has to compete with other games for my limited amount of money I do factor in the fact it has steamworks as a negative against it and so will end up buying something else that won't have it. Such as Torchlight 2 or Divinity 2 Directors Edition from gog (my second copy of divinity 2 because I wanted one with out a DRM).

[rickah88]

I'm was really looking forward to this game, but having to use Steam to play it is a major turn off for me.
All the other releases were physical copies that did not require a Steam account, and it got 1C/the fans this far...why can't we keep that going?
With so many gaming options out there, I can spend my money elsewhere. Such a shame that 1C isn't even giving an option here.

[Dwagginz]

Originally Posted by Ragnin

I also hate that I have to ask for everything via email with them because they don't want to have a call center. So then even simple things takes several days of email exchange to try to solve. Or if they do have a number its buried and not easy to find.

They don't. The Steam support team is pretty small.

Originally Posted by Ragnin

And since this game has to compete with other games for my limited amount of money I do factor in the fact it has steamworks as a negative against it and so will end up buying something else that won't have it. Such as Torchlight 2

Torchlight II is Steamworks.

[DeRex]

Why Steam can be problem for anybody?

[mbpopolano24]

Originally Posted by DeRex

Why Steam can be problem for anybody?

Can you read? Repeated many times...

[Mandea]

I consider the pros outweigh the cons as far as steam is concerned. No updates (gog) is no go for me. Every cd I've ever owned caused problems after a few years so I am happy I no longer have to use them. I understand the problems others have but for now it's either steam or nothing.

[Dwagginz]

Originally Posted by Mandea

No updates (gog) is no go for me.

GOG has updates, but they're few and far between as the majority of their games are old releases that aren't being supported any more.

[Mygaffer]

Originally Posted by Mandea

I consider the pros outweigh the cons as far as steam is concerned. No updates (gog) is no go for me. Every cd I've ever owned caused problems after a few years so I am happy I no longer have to use them. I understand the problems others have but for now it's either steam or nothing.

GOG.com has updates. When an update is released for your game it will tell you up your library a number, this is the number of games with new updates or content.

[Mygaffer]

OK, well I am sorry for all these posts in a row! If a mod wants to condense them I would thank them.

Anyway, lets get the conversation back on topic! There are other threads for this DRM debate.

Who else here is concerned about the "Valhalla Armor" pre-order bonus? The tag line is that it will give you an "... additional a strong boost to the character’s attributes"

I hate it when pre-order items affect balance of a game. With New Vegas I deleted all those stupid packs, as they made the beginning of the game waaay too easy in a way that really took something away from the game itself.

I hope it is not the same with this armor set although I can always just not use it.

It will also be interesting to see if they just reused the maps from the The Legend or if they have redesigned them as well. I really did not like the island design of Armored Princess, it was just not as fun to explore a lot of smaller places compared to a few larger places. I suspect it is easier or faster to design though...

So I am hoping this is more like a full release than an expansion. Time will tell.

[Mandea]

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

GOG.com has updates. When an update is released for your game it will tell you up your library a number, this is the number of games with new updates or content.

gog has old games, and that's it. can you buy dishnored from gog today? batman AC? nope. I want to play a game today, not 1 year later, or 2, or 3...