A potential fix for the Aircraft visibility problems?

[IvanK]

Well I changed meshSowlod=8 in the Steam side of the house, went in and flew then checked after exit and it was still set =8. I have Steam cloud turned off though. So it wont always reset itself.

[notafinger!]

I can confirm what David said. Any changes to conf.ini in Steam folder has no effect. Meshshowlod=8 in 1C SoftClub conf.ini will revert to Meshshowlod=6 and results in no cockpit and 3d externals that look like they are from an early 90's DOS game.

Originally Posted by IvanK

Well I changed meshSowlod=8 in the Steam side of the house, went in and flew then checked after exit and it was still set =8. I have Steam cloud turned off though. So it wont always reset itself.

You can put whatever you want in the conf.ini stored in Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover. The game does not use that file. As a test you can delete it completely and the game will still launch and run just fine. The only conf.ini file that matters is stored in ~\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover. Change Meshshowlod= in that file and you will see what it actually does to your game.

[David198502]

and the disappearing problem is a specific spitfire problem they introduced with a patch...
at least for me, all the other planes stay visible...but the spit disappears completely..

i cant believe that this really annoying bug made it into the last update of clod......gosh im angry

[HR_Naglfar]

Originally Posted by David198502

and the disappearing problem is a specific spitfire problem they introduced with a patch...
at least for me, all the other planes stay visible...but the spit disappears completely..

i cant believe that this really annoying bug made it into the last update of clod......gosh im angry

To me it happens with all fighters with MeshShowLod=0, it's not just the Spitfire.

[David198502]

the disappearing also depends with with FOV you prefer to fly....i noticed yesterday, that the planes only seem to completely disappear with a FOV from ~80° or higher...
if i fly with the standard 70° FOV, the planes start to flicker in the critical range,and are hard to spot, but dont disappear completely...

[Blennydude]

I'm at a complete loss with plane disappearances so far. I can't remember the last time planes stayed visible from detection to close range.
Now that the game appears at least playable, with some FM components approaching reality, this is the next game-breaking bug that keeps me from having any fun with CoD - it's just SO frustrating I could almost cry.

I run a 1920*1080 resolution (ATI HD 5xxx series, 1GB VRAM), which is the native one for my monitor, and so far, nothing has helped. Quite often, I feel that I can't spot anything at all (which is not a problem of me needing better glasses, if you suspect that - normally, I can spot things from pretty far out). As an example: A few days ago, on ATAG, people reported 6 109s on the deck, right where I was - but the first thing I saw of them was when I checked my 6 after getting fatal hits...
And, at other times, I've got the problem most people report - that I can spot planes from far out, only to have them disappear, and (sometimes) reappear when it's way too late.
As I said, I'm at a complete loss, and it's just soo frustrating. I just want to play a combat flight simulation and I don't see why I'm not allowed to do that! *sigh*.

I tried everything that has been proposed so far, chiefly among it the MeshShowLod=1 setting in conf.ini. Setting this costs some FPS, but it's certainly still playable - except that it does seemingly nothing.
I also overheard(read) somebody mentioning that object detail has to be at "high" - which it is, per defauilt, on my setting - nothing.
Playing with other graphic settings, p.ex. setting texture details to "original", also yielded nothing at all.

I always feel like I'm flying completely alone on ATAG - the "biggest" proof that there are other people in the air are flak puffs over home territory... but, strangely, as long as I am on the ground, things *seem* to work, with fellow pilots being visible, taking off alongside me, and if airspace is busy over the airfield, the action is quite clearly visible...

Sooooo, if anybody has a tip how to finally get rid of this da*** problem, I would be very, very, VERY grateful. I even would fly with a skin with the words "I <3 <helper>!!11" on it, if provided with one!


Just one time having a good time in CoD - just one time - please...

[SQB]

Well, I think I've found the problem. There's a gap between the fade out range (where the model of the aircraft disappears) and where the dot comes in. This is why FOV appears to make a difference (which LOD to use is a product of distance and FOV). To change this... setting the LOD to run out to infinity (meshshowlod=1) will do the trick, but you'll kill your computer. If I knew what lines changed things I would make it so the dot appears on any aircraft at any distance, it's still to have it come in at a certain range.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Blennydude

I'm at a complete loss with plane disappearances so far. I can't remember the last time planes stayed visible from detection to close range.
Now that the game appears at least playable, with some FM components approaching reality, this is the next game-breaking bug that keeps me from having any fun with CoD - it's just SO frustrating I could almost cry.

I run a 1920*1080 resolution (ATI HD 5xxx series, 1GB VRAM), which is the native one for my monitor, and so far, nothing has helped. Quite often, I feel that I can't spot anything at all (which is not a problem of me needing better glasses, if you suspect that - normally, I can spot things from pretty far out). As an example: A few days ago, on ATAG, people reported 6 109s on the deck, right where I was - but the first thing I saw of them was when I checked my 6 after getting fatal hits...
And, at other times, I've got the problem most people report - that I can spot planes from far out, only to have them disappear, and (sometimes) reappear when it's way too late.
As I said, I'm at a complete loss, and it's just soo frustrating. I just want to play a combat flight simulation and I don't see why I'm not allowed to do that! *sigh*.

I tried everything that has been proposed so far, chiefly among it the MeshShowLod=1 setting in conf.ini. Setting this costs some FPS, but it's certainly still playable - except that it does seemingly nothing.
I also overheard(read) somebody mentioning that object detail has to be at "high" - which it is, per defauilt, on my setting - nothing.
Playing with other graphic settings, p.ex. setting texture details to "original", also yielded nothing at all.

I always feel like I'm flying completely alone on ATAG - the "biggest" proof that there are other people in the air are flak puffs over home territory... but, strangely, as long as I am on the ground, things *seem* to work, with fellow pilots being visible, taking off alongside me, and if airspace is busy over the airfield, the action is quite clearly visible...

Sooooo, if anybody has a tip how to finally get rid of this da*** problem, I would be very, very, VERY grateful. I even would fly with a skin with the words "I <3 <helper>!!11" on it, if provided with one!

Just one time having a good time in CoD - just one time - please...

Try watching my track file up above. If the dot disappears, then maybe it is in your system some where.

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by David198502

and the disappearing problem is a specific spitfire problem they introduced with a patch...
at least for me, all the other planes stay visible...but the spit disappears completely..

i cant believe that this really annoying bug made it into the last update of clod......gosh im angry

I saw this behavior with an enemy Rotol Hurri, in an offline mission. Label and plane became invisible at 2.4 km distance, guestimated 400 m below me. Vanished for ~2 seconds then reappeared at 1.5 km. This was with MeshShowLod=1 in my conf.ini in the myuser folder.