4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[ElAurens]

Pointless actually.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Pointless actually.

Pretty much, since none of the things I suggested is like to happen.

I'm just trying to bury the damned horse before people start beating it again.

[DuxCorvan]

G) Four years ago, someone should have handed a copy of Il-2 to George Bush, Sr., and then let him browse the list of flyables, just to hear him say "What the..." before his son, George W.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by DuxCorvan

G) Four years ago, someone should have handed a copy of Il-2 to George Bush, Sr., and then let him browse the list of flyables, just to hear him say "What the..." before his son, George W.

Let's not make this about one political personality or party. The issue is copyright and patent trolling, which cuts across political lines.

I am of the opinion that N-G's trademark claims to any product produced for the U.S. government before or during WW2 is unsustainable, for a number of reasons I've already mentioned.

It also appears that their IP policies are inconsistent. They allow trademark free use of pictures of their past products, but not 3d computer images or simulations? How is a 3d image not art? Why should use of that art in a video game be any different from a static picture of that object in an old-school tabletop game?

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure how one would start a campaign to overturn crap like N-G is doing. There are a number of petition sites, which could be used to bring attention to the issue, but I'm not sure how to frame it.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Let's not make this about one political personality or party. The issue is copyright and patent trolling, which cuts across political lines.

I am of the opinion that N-G's trademark claims to any product produced for the U.S. government before or during WW2 is unsustainable, for a number of reasons I've already mentioned.

It also appears that their IP policies are inconsistent. They allow trademark free use of pictures of their past products, but not 3d computer images or simulations? How is a 3d image not art? Why should use of that art in a video game be any different from a static picture of that object in an old-school tabletop game?

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure how one would start a campaign to overturn crap like N-G is doing. There are a number of petition sites, which could be used to bring attention to the issue, but I'm not sure how to frame it.

Although I can't speak for Dux, I imagine his comment about George Bush Senior was the tip off that this probably wasn't a political statement but rather a personal one. George Bush Senior was a TBM Avenger pilot. He was even shot down in one.

[Zorin]

The first two out of most likely four Type 91 torpedos. Completely new meshes due to the loss of all Japanese ordnance work by means of a faulty HDD.

[mkubani]

Zorin, send me the models for review. And please let's keep this thread related to 4.12 dev. updates. If you want, start a new thread for loadouts modelling or keep the information flow over PMs / emails.

[DuxCorvan]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Although I can't speak for Dux, I imagine his comment about George Bush Senior was the tip off that this probably wasn't a political statement but rather a personal one. George Bush Senior was a TBM Avenger pilot. He was even shot down in one.

Wow, someone with a sense of irony!

[Fighterace]

Bring on 4.12 !!!

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by DuxCorvan

Wow, someone with a sense of irony!

Always