A potential fix for the Aircraft visibility problems?

[SlipBall]

I do not have this problem

[Wolf_Rider]

You would need a "Focus on Target" setting button, which would boka the background and double vision the foreground... as well as the "target" set as 3d in all LoD's.

But, that only works when viewing in close range... viewing from off at a distance the sim would need to deal with, it doesn't happen that way


even then, some wouldn't find the target and complain...

The eye doesn't put a "black edge" to objects and the further the objects are away from the viewer, the more they go to grey


Basically, what you want is three monitors (at least) with each projection onto each monitor set to 20 ~ 25 degrees. NOT as current when using one, two or three monitors , which has the FoV set to 60 ~75 degrees across the spread

[SQB]

In my opinion the air target's distant spot should be 3*3 pixels, with light pixels on the outside and dark pixels on the inside (or vice versa, doesn't make a difference). Meanwhile, ground targets should still be the current size and shade.

[David198502]

i fully agree with the OP, and in fact it was exactly that what i was thinking about two days ago...how to make the contacts better visible in a realistic manner....

a focus on target button would be horrible in my honest opinion...maybe optional for not full real servers...but definitely not as a "always available option".

the most annoying fact about the disappearing contacts is, that it was not the case with the release version.it was still hard to spot enemy planes, but at least, they didnt disappear completely like spits do now for example.
making the edges darker sounds like a solution...it wouldnt be possible in the case where the aircraft is visible only as a dot of one pixel,...but in that distance, the pixel is visible good enough anyway in my opinion...the real problem starts, when the aircraft is getting closer and switches from being a dot to being a 3d model.

[HR_Naglfar]

Did any of you tried MeshShowLod=1 in conf.ini?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28085

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by HR_Naglfar

Did any of you tried MeshShowLod=1 in conf.ini?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28085

I think the majority of the problem has to do with the lack of AA. We have no crisp images at much over 30m away so at a few kilometers away, while trying to keep track of this dot, it looks like a tearing small blob on your screen. AA would be a start IMO. I do not like the LOD issues at all.

[SlipBall]

Now I am wondering if my 120HZ is a factor

[HR_Naglfar]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I think the majority of the problem has to do with the lack of AA. We have no crisp images at much over 30m away so at a few kilometers away, while trying to keep track of this dot, it looks like a tearing small blob on your screen. AA would be a start IMO. I do not like the LOD issues at all.

That would be the case with the people that have difficulties to see the dots, when the dots are there... But when there is no dot nor 3D model at all in the transition from dot to 3D model AA would do nothing.

Of course may be difficult to distinguish between one problem and the other...

[PLebre]

I totaly agree with BUZZSAW point of view.
But I have my own idea about how to give a solution to the problem.

First I would like to say that I am 100% to the factor Simulation, as real as the real thing the better.

But we have to agree that the actual interface (vitual reality. Display, grafics, trackir, joystick) have its limitations.

So I will go for the follow possible solution.

First, increase the spot visibility distance (plus than the real spot visibility for a determinated airplane dimensions). This is a point less in the Sim factor, but I think somehow this will compensate the interface limits. At that distance stage the plane will be represented by a black point, and it dimension not related to the current scale distance dimension, just a black point that could be easily spotted on the display.

At closer distances, when the plane begins to be represented by the 3D model first LOD´s, with a over scaled highlight sun refection effect when the spotted plane is to by seen from an above position and no changes when seen from a lower point of view, because we will have a lot of contraste from the object with the lighty sky.

Same process to by aply for the ground target objects.

Just my 2cents.

Regards

[Arl5555en]

I think the majority of the problem has to do with the lack of AA.