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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-10-2012, 04:59 AM
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Thanks for your posts,Les. Very interesting and dramatic.

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Old 10-11-2012, 03:54 PM
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Very interesting use of combined pictures!
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:17 PM
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Thanks.

Strange. Just noticed the last picture has disappeared. So has it's thumbnail in my list of pictures on Imageshack, but I can still view a small version of it there. Have uploaded it and will try to embed it again.

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Old 10-11-2012, 05:21 PM
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A few screen shots I use as a desktop background slide show. It's hard to deny that at least the lighting can be pretty.

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Old 10-11-2012, 05:43 PM
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A few more.

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:33 PM
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Looking at these pictures I just have to say... this sim looks awesome!

A majority here alway complains about the dumbed down graphics since the rewrite. I agreed with that in most parts refering to the former game versions.

But these pics now look quite mature. Apart from that cloud shadows and high clouds are back. The canopy reflections are more intense as well I think. The lighting effects during dusk/dawn are fine.
I am wondering what is now still missing compared to the release version? Just out of my head I could only list the following:
- reflections of clouds/planes etc in the water below (which looked gorgeous, but also a bit unrealistic dont you think? at least in this intensity)
- morning fog over the landscape
- small calibre hit decals!!!

Did I miss something? In my opinion the game now looks stunning and overall I'm satisfied graphics-wise. Correct me if I am wrong!
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:45 PM
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[QUOTE=III/JG53_Don;468556...Did I miss something?...[/QUOTE]

There used to be a lighting effect on the planes that made them look more real and connected to their environment. If you look at the front half of the wings and the lower sides of the fuselage of the plane in the picture below, you can see the reflections there that show the effect. Those parts of the plane are in shadow but are still lit up a little bit by ambient light in the planes surroundings. It's no longer in the game and as a result the planes look more flat and artificial. It's probably regarded as trivial and low priority (like navigation and landing lights) but those sort of details can really add up and make the game a lot more immersive and realistic, for some people anyway.



You can see the effect in action (and in original colour) in this video at 00:15 and 00:38. (It's easier to see when watching in expanded view on Youtube. Just noticed too there are lots of cloud reflections in the water as well in that video )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BaR6qjKF6U

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Old 10-11-2012, 11:04 PM
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ah I see, thanks Les! Its not totally eye-catching on first sight, so I must have missed it in the early days or just forgot about it
But you're right, it adds a lot to the atmosphere allthough it is more like a unconcious perception
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Regarding the long vertical pictures, have you tried imgur.com?
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Looking at these pictures I just have to say... this sim looks awesome!

A majority here alway complains about the dumbed down graphics since the rewrite. I agreed with that in most parts refering to the former game versions.

But these pics now look quite mature. Apart from that cloud shadows and high clouds are back. The canopy reflections are more intense as well I think. The lighting effects during dusk/dawn are fine.
I am wondering what is now still missing compared to the release version? Just out of my head I could only list the following:
- reflections of clouds/planes etc in the water below (which looked gorgeous, but also a bit unrealistic dont you think? at least in this intensity)
- morning fog over the landscape
- small calibre hit decals!!!

Did I miss something? In my opinion the game now looks stunning and overall I'm satisfied graphics-wise. Correct me if I am wrong!
Actually some of the shotsposted above are from older versions. If you wqnt to see how bad they chopped the lighting engine in the recent versions, you have to trey an olser version of the game again.
Tryst me. It's day and night. This new lighting engine makes everything look like it's viewed through sun glasses....and a bad pair of sun glasses.
Dawn and dusk colors are pitiful. All that beautiful orange light, giving such nice natural orqnge hue to everything from clouds, to water, to grass and fields, was replaced with a murky dark gray mess.
Reflections are almost gone. The cockpits and skins lost a lot of the natral look. Just ask the skiners how bad did this 'new' engine mess up the colors on older skins. Shadows cloud shadows, and the subtle way shadows affected reflections are also gone.

The best way to see the difference is to find an older version and try it yourself. It's like going ten years back in time.

This is what you get when a lighting engine calibrated by a professionl photographer is "fixed" by artisticly impaired computer programers, that didn't see a sunset out in the country in a too long time.

Let me remind you what we had:

























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