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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-06-2012, 01:26 PM
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I'm not interested in beat-all-aircraft, i want historical scenarios and all the weird n wacky aircraft that actually took part.

anyway the IL2 will have flight characteristics of a 190 while the 190 will fly like a Bristol Bombay, so we're part way there! LOL! joking ..

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Old 10-06-2012, 02:11 PM
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IL2 wasn't chronologically either. Besides it had several option for scenarios in the first place.

So I have to agree with MP: From the marketing point of view, a scenario of 1944 Western Front or even early Africa, to keep the beloved timeline would have been a much better advertisement. And more profitable. I must admit that the eastern front ist one reason I'm not interested in this sequel. And I guess I'm not alone.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:02 PM
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Do not forget the 1C company is there to make money and this in the all world. So this said first IL2 Russian front then little by little all the fronts until the big problem with the USA and Grumman asking a lot of money for the copyright for their planes end the series. No with the COD a mitigated success so back to the initial triumph the Soviet against the Nazis first period June 1942 until June 1942 a lot of planes possible but not too much work to adapt the good thing from COD to the new game.
I like this period of war and wait for BOM with trepidation and curiosity.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:22 PM
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Once DCS produce the FW190 and BF109 I don't think there would be any competition.

Even DCS' lack of terrain features which they are in the developing process to upgrade for combined arms. With their one WW2 aircraft and its sheer stupendously accurate and insane simulation quality and cockpit detail makes clod look like a toy and questions my beliefs on clod being a simulation.

DCS will steal the crowd. Eventually.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:38 AM
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Once DCS produce the FW190 and BF109 I don't think there would be any competition.

Even DCS' lack of terrain features which they are in the developing process to upgrade for combined arms. With their one WW2 aircraft and its sheer stupendously accurate and insane simulation quality and cockpit detail makes clod look like a toy and questions my beliefs on clod being a simulation.

DCS will steal the crowd. Eventually.
DCS P51 is looking good for a beta product BUT the problem is that DCS hasn't finished its P51 yet and they have never said that they are going to create a contemporary opponent for thew P-51. They don't have an appropriate map or any appropriate ground objects.

Odds are that they will make a new plane to oppose or supliment the the A-10-C or branch off in some other Weird and wonderful direction like vietnam

When you think about it we don't have a player flyable equivalent to the Blackshark yet!

DCS World at the moment product is a group of unrelated study sims. It's all out of context. And look at the time it's taken them to get the Navada map off the ground. (Has it been released yet?)

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Old 10-07-2012, 01:20 AM
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DCS P51 is looking good for a beta product BUT the problem is that DCS hasn't finished its P51 yet and they have never said that they are going to create a contemporary opponent for thew P-51. They don't have an appropriate map or any appropriate ground objects.

Odds are that they will make a new plane to oppose or supliment the the A-10-C or branch off in some other Weird and wonderful direction like vietnam

When you think about it we don't have a player flyable equivalent to the Blackshark yet!

DCS World at the moment product is a group of unrelated study sims. It's all out of context. And look at the time it's taken them to get the Navada map off the ground. (Has it been released yet?)
DCS has the problem of classified information for modern aircraft that is why they are having a hard time producing aircraft to counter the KA-50

This is why they are now starting the new flying legends series. Old WW2 aircraft are now declassified and they are able to model them far quicker than modern aircraft.

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They don't have an appropriate map or any appropriate ground objects.
Map is of little consequence, people want to fly.. people are already hosting server and dog fighting just with the one WW2 aircraft they have.

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Odds are that they will make a new plane to oppose or supliment the the A-10-C or branch off in some other Weird and wonderful direction like vietnam
They have already announced that the flying legend series is separate and is being developed in parallel with their modern projects, resources devoted to modern aircraft have no bearing on the development of the flying legend series.

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they have never said that they are going to create a contemporary opponent for thew P-51.
They will not announce/confirm nor deny anything... however I am privileged enough to have insight in their development direction.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:52 AM
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DCS has the problem of classified information for modern aircraft that is why they are having a hard time producing aircraft to counter the KA-50

This is why they are now starting the new flying legends series. Old WW2 aircraft are now declassified and they are able to model them far quicker than modern aircraft.
That is sad, What they really need to get more interest in their [a-10- black shark part of the] sim is contemporary flyable adversaries and a more diverse flyable planeset.


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Map is of little consequence, people want to fly.. people are already hosting server and dog fighting just with the one WW2 aircraft they have.
Just goes to show what a diverse range of people are into flight sims.

The biggest turnoff I have of DCS P-51 is the lack of context. To make it interesting for me I need contemporary maps, objects and adversaries.


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They have already announced that the flying legend series is separate and is being developed in parallel with their modern projects, resources devoted to modern aircraft have no bearing on the development of the flying legend series.
Sad once again. At best it will just fragment or dilute their development efforts into the different areas. The worst that could happen is that loose their current expertise in developing for the modern aircraft.

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They will not announce/confirm nor deny anything... however I am privileged enough to have insight in their development direction.
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Pitty you can't talk about it more. A lot of us simmers are in it for the long run, not just for instant jollies. Knowing there is a future for any of the major sims is a good thing.

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