Latest Patch HURRICANES NOT STARTING AGAIN???

[kristorf]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Agreed, coops are good fun.

I don't understand why some people can't see the benefits of a coop system.

The whole planning of the mission, following the route to the target. It's just not the same as on a server no matter how many targets you have or how well planned your sortie is, your guaranteed to run into a crazy lone wolf online while a coop is much more realistic and perfect for squad training.... It's a must for the next game.

It should be a must for the current game, especially on the map the whole game is supposed to be based on, the Channel

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

I seriously think you're actually a professional troll at this point,

As if what you think about me has anything to do with the topic at hand..

But I understand how some can take it personal when long held beliefs are challenged!

And for future reference, the good news is, as an adult, I don't really care what anyone in a game forum thinks about me!

So you and yours can save some time in future posts by keeping your personal feelings to yourself!

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

but I'll indulge you.

This is not a good sign IMHO..

It indicates that you did not read and or understand the challenge..

In that the whole purpose of the challenge it to indulge yourself!

I have already taking the challenge, which is why I don't feel as if I have been lied to, ripped off, etc..

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

1. Cloud effects that are not possible to generate in game without using the now deactivated and instantly crashing weather system.

2. Cloud reflections on the water which were removed.

3. Fire and smoke effects which were removed.

4. Airframe reflection effects which were removed.

5. Sound effects for engines and guns which are non-existant in the game since day one.

6. The suggestion that you can take part in 128 player battles when in reality 60+ creates warping that makes the game nearly unplayable and certainly not enjoyable.

And this is just from the promo film on Steam.

Based on this it is clear that you did not read the challenge.. Note that above you were barely able to complete Step 1, and totally missed Step 2..

That is to say, just repeating 'broken promises' that you have come to 'imagine' exist is not going to help you realize they do not exist..

You have to do both steps in the challenge!

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

There's more from the description of the game:

Ok, lets see what you got here..

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

Over 25 Aircrafts – English, German & Italian aircraft including the Spitfire, The Hurricane, and the Messerschmitt Bf-109. Every detail faithfully recreated.
Every detail faithfully recreated? Not by any religion I know. Also cleverly disingenuous in stating 25 aircraft implying you can fly them by then listing the obviously flyable ones.

Now this is a little better!

And is something I can work with to help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality.

Lets take a look at each issue

1st) Every detail faithfully recreated.. First thing to note, you did not list ONE THING that you considered to NOT BE faithfully recreated, which makes it impossible for me to address your issues here.. Other than to point out you have resorted back to the Alfred Hitchcock scare tactics.

2nd) 25 Aircraft.. First thing to note, no where does it say there are 25 flyable aircraft! Just because you read that and got the impression that there were 25 flyable aircraft does not equate to a 'broken promise'. It is too bad that you never had the chance to fly IL-2 before buying CoD, or just about any other flight sim, in that you would have been well aware of the fact that most flight sims have un-flyable aircraft.

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

Massive Multiplayer – Customizable modes allow for up to 128 players in huge ongoing battles or hop in deathmatch-style free-for-alls.
Here's that 128 thing again.

Sorry but your being a little vague here? So allow me to help you clarify your statement with a few questions

Q1) Are you saying CoD does not allow serves sizes of 128 people to join?

If so, I am 99% sure you are wrong! In that I have seen servers listing 128 player capabilities..

Or is this a continuation of your online experiences where 60+ players caused warping?

Assuming that is the case allow me address this for you.. In short it is not the games fault if the server hardware is not up to the task of 128 players, or that the server has the settings so low that they allow people with piss poor pings to join the server. Thus no promise broken here either!

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

And just for the sake of something to think about. Every feature that was in the game in its initial release form is a sort of promise. That's the stuff they're saying is in their game.

What stuff?

In light of the fact that you did NOT LIST ONE feature (stuff) it makes it hard for me to try and help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality. And is just another example of the Alfred Hitchcock scare tactics

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

We didn't buy the game as a beta. We bought it as a finished product.

Agreed, but you have to understand that you would be hard pressed to find any modern game that is release bug free

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

Everything they've taken out since then and haven't managed to bring back in is a bit of a broken promise.

Everything?

In light of the fact that you did NOT LIST ONE feature (stuff) it makes it hard for me to try and help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality. And is just another example of the Alfred Hitchcock scare tactics

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

You want us to start listing those one by one too Ace?

If you want me to help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality!

On that note I will say this, changing and or removing a feature does not necessarily equate to a broken promise! No more than adding a feature is a broken promise!

But until you can be more specific (less vague) I can not address this issue of your adequately

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

I'd like to add here that I like the game! I really do!

As so the many who are playing it day in and day out, both offline and on

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

I keep playing it, don't I?

Are you asking me?

If so, sorry, I left my crystal ball at home today thus there is no way for me to see what you are doing at this moment or in the near future!

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

I think it's worth playing. But if you've got weeks and weeks and weeks between releasing patches, spend 20 bloody minutes to make sure all the aircraft start before you upload the damn thing. Hell, it's not like this isn't something they've had happen already! It's the FIRST thing you should check! How long did it take us to find it? And we don't even work the code.

There are several ways to look at that.. One being negative, where you only focus on the negative, Two, the fact that they missed that tells me their focus is on 'other things'...

Now allow me to use the Alfred Hitchcock tactic here in reverse..

Where 'other things' can mean what ever it is to the reader..

If you think the FM sucks, than you can convince yourself that they were so busy with the FM that they forgot to check if the engine starts..
If you think the AI sucks, than you can convince yourself that they were so busy with the AI that they forgot to check if the engine starts..

Sadly most never stop to consider the positive side of Alfred Hitchcock tactic!

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

As if... .

You're amazing, buddy. Keep doing what you do.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

You're amazing, buddy. Keep doing what you do.

Wilco!

So in summary..

Thus far..

NO ONE has been able to come up with one valid 'broken promise' (where valid = doing step 1 and step 2 of the challange)

Strange when you stop and consider how many references are made to 'broken promises' on a daliy bases in this forum..

You would think someone could provide one!

I mean if it was true.. And there were dozens upon dozens of 'broken promises' than it should be a simple mater to list at least one if not a half dozen

But I digress!

All in all thanks for proving my point! S!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

All in all thanks for proving my point! S!

"Tell him what he's won Bob!"

The same faulty broken game as before he started his "promise" wasn't used campaign. I don't see why Ace gets so hung up on the word "promise". They showed videos of things used to entice people of features that "possibly" might be in the game.

Originally Posted by luthier

The game sold two and half copies in the last month and had 74 returns

.....We released a faulty game.

The dev has admitted to everyone their disappointment with the game and apologized for it. No need for you to whitewash and try to cover for Luthier anymore Ace, that cat's out of the bag.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Force10

I don't see why Ace gets so hung up on the word "promise".

I am hung up on the word?

Don't confuse me repeating what you and yours say as an indicator or proof of me being hung up on a word

I am simply repeating what you and yours are saying on a daily bases..

As for luither admiting this or that..

Note I never said he didn't

My only point you and yours are missing is that there are not as many broken promises as you think there are

Hope that helps! S!

PS I noted that you didn't offer up an examples of a 'broke promise' either

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

I am hung up on the word?

Don't confuse me repeating what you and yours say as an indicator or proof of me being hung up on a word

I am simply repeating what you and yours are saying on a daily bases..

As for luither admiting this or that..

Note I never said he didn't

My only point you and yours are missing is that there are not as many broken promises as you think there are

Hope that helps! S!

PS I noted that you didn't offer up an examples of a 'broke promise' either

Oh my...Ace just loves shooting from the hip on a daily basis. Just like he put his foot in his mouth at the beginning of this thread with OP...comical!

You keep saying "you and yours". I would challenge you to find a post where I said the dev broke a "promise"...but I can save you some time. I think it would be very hard to find a dev that actually used the word "promise" in the history of video game developement. But releasing a promo vid and showing videos of things that were meant to be in the game was "misleading".

Not that I don't mind being a victim of Ace's hip shooting...it's just getting old. He kind of reminds me of a ship still firing it's guns as it is sinking under the water. The devs admitted COD will not be fixed to even their expectations and is over and done. Kinda sad that Ace just doesn't let it go. It's probably evident since he doesn't post any cool screenshots, talk about interesting missions he flew, or lead by some sort of example by actually playing the game.....posting here is all he's got.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Wilco!

So in summary..

Thus far..

NO ONE has been able to come up with one valid 'broken promise' (where valid = doing step 1 and step 2 of the challange)

Strange when you stop and consider how many references are made to 'broken promises' on a daliy bases in this forum..

You would think someone could provide one!

I mean if it was true.. And there were dozens upon dozens of 'broken promises' than it should be a simple mater to list at least one if not a half dozen

But I digress!

All in all thanks for proving my point! S!

I agree....people would have a valid argument for using a "Promise" for features listed on the BOX cover, or official release website, but there are few of those listed. The vast majority of the posts that proclaim broken promises in the forums were never made by the developer. The developer has stated that this is a WIP and features would be added as game and system resources allowed thru the life of the series.

The developer has just now made the sim playable with minimal features working, and it will be sometime before we see all the features working as we would hope. COD for obvious reasons hasn't been financially successful enough to support further work, but the good news is the investors still seem to be willing to support the series at least until the Sequels release.

The standalone COD is almost dead, but the Channel map should live on with "promised" feature improvements and additions by the devs and community through the life of the Sequels, "IF" the next Sequel is successful enough to help support further development. There is still a chance we will eventually see a much improved IL-2 1946 on the new game engine.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Chivas

I agree....people would have a valid argument for using a "Promise" for features listed on the BOX cover, or official release website, but there are few of those listed. The vast majority of the posts that proclaim broken promises in the forums were never made by the developer. The developer has stated that this is a WIP and features would be added as game and system resources allowed thru the life of the series.

Wheuuu..

Thank you Chivas!

For a moment there I thought I said something wrong..

But based on the fact that you get it..

Tells me those who don't get it..

Just don't and won't or choose not to get it!

S!

[MadTommy]

Ace-of-Aces can you read this thread and add your name to the list. You just wind people up, maybe you get your kicks by doing this, but its is getting really tedious. You have your opinion, fair enough, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

Please for the love of god wind your neck in.

I won't be responding to any response from you, this is just a sincere plea to you to stop being so antagonistic and turning every thread you enter into a tiresome squabble.

Please.