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Old 09-27-2012, 12:25 PM
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The magic word here is precision. It's been a while since I've raced on a pc. If I'm not mistaken the GT cars have 270 or 180 degree steering lock.
And if you're racing a simulation that's what you wanna use. Because you're simulating real life, to see how good you can get. Anything else is just childish to me, chasing numbers...

Don't know about WWI, but WWII planes had like 30 cm stick travel, the 109 25cm.
Modern fighter jets have the same. Except for the ones that use force sensing controls.

Formation flying would be next to impossible with 5cm of precision on a stick.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:33 PM
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The magic word here is precision. It's been a while since I've raced on a pc. If I'm not mistaken the GT cars have 270 or 180 degree steering lock.
And if you're racing a simulation that's what you wanna use. Because you're simulating real life, to see how good you can get. Anything else is just childish to me, chasing numbers...

Don't know about WWI, but WWII planes had like 30 cm stick travel, the 109 25cm.
Modern fighter jets have the same. Except for the ones that use force sensing controls.

Formation flying would be next to impossible with 5cm of precision on a stick.
well you hardly ever use full stick travel once airborne.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:18 PM
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Oh sure you do, dogfighting, aerobatics.

But the thread title suggests it's better to have extra small stick travel, which is not true.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:46 PM
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if you want high precision you go for lot of travel

if you want to go to the limit samll travel is best

you can countersteer easy with an artificially enhanced time reaction

normally they say motorbikes turn and brake more than you do when you think youre on the limit, this is a conservation natural feeling, with small travel you beat this though on this sense high sensitivity is addictive
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:05 PM
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You can't pick one or the other, you need both. On airplanes especially.
With a 5cm stick travel the aircraft would be uncontrollable in a dive due to the forces acting on control surfaces.

The 109 has exactly that problem. Small stick travel, above 400 mph the stick is impossible to move.

What you propose can only be beneficial virtually, in a game.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:17 PM
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if you want high precision you go for lot of travel

if you want to go to the limit samll travel is best
Stick-travel is only one part of this. The reason why an Extra 300 has higher roll-rates than an F18 isn't due to stick-movement, it's due to bigger control-surfaces.

Besides, your example is completely silly on for example an F16, where the stick measures force, not travel.

Memo to self: why the HELL do I even bother answering a raaaid-thread....
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:37 PM
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Memo to self: why the HELL do I even bother answering a raaaid-thread....
Thanks for the reality check
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:52 PM
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well im doing it out of generosity

with this setup i got a word record in an steam game(raceroom) in 4 hours(for my 1st recordin race evolution i needed 600)

without this high sensitivity setup i wouldnt be able to do it

as i said for me theres 2 seconds i gain from racing with 40º or 400º

feel free to grab free steam race room and race one of my hotlaps ghosts

i was pondering to get all records in that game but that was insane even for me

now i rather racing online, i dont even need to know the circuit to keep up with the high sens setup
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:01 AM
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well you hardly ever use full stick travel once airborne.
Maybe for a ludicrously extreme sideslip
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