Are DONATIONS possible?

[Codex]

Getting back on topic. I would be happy to "donate" if they adopted a paid add-on model like ROF / DCS. I'm talking about "buying" full flyable planes instead of including them all in patches or sequel. God knows I hardly flew most of the planes in the original IL-2.

[klem]

Originally Posted by Codex

Getting back on topic. I would be happy to "donate" if they adopted a paid add-on model like ROF / DCS. I'm talking about "buying" full flyable planes instead of including them all in patches or sequel. God knows I hardly flew most of the planes in the original IL-2.

I won't buy add-on aircraft, I'll buy the next level-playing field game.

I'm talking about on line play here. Buying yourself a better combat aircraft is just spoilt-child wanna-be-the-best-scorer no matter what it costs Daddy. Even though I bought many of the ROF planes, the on-line gravitation towards 'the best ones' put me off it and I wasn't going to be suckered into buying every single one they released just to keep up.

In short, learn to fly what you've got or you'll end up splitting the on-line community.

.....unless of course we have on-line mission builders who will stick to 'stock' aircraft of the last official patch. Then you guys can spend away.

[Stublerone]

+1 @ klem

I also do not want sims to end up in that "wanna see stats and wanna be better than others" or "I buy more, so I am better" mentality. That is, why I do not want any total online stats. Servers can count each by each and a carreer mode can also count, but not globally presented. This would totally destroy the whole flight sim comunity, shouting at each other "You are not good enough to fly with us. Look at your stats....etc.".

Paying for each plane in the manner of RoF? The essentual idea behind it could work. It is just a matter of how it is done.

To topic: Donate on clod after all this? Spending money for new just to fix? Are you serious? And do you really think, that a donation of 20000 bucks helps? This is no money and the 1000 guys actually playing perhaps do not worth it. Donate will only motivate them to built up more insufficient stuff, instead of getting rehabilitated (right vocabulary?)

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by klem

I won't buy add-on aircraft, I'll buy the next level-playing field game.

I'm talking about on line play here. Buying yourself a better combat aircraft is just spoilt-child wanna-be-the-best-scorer no matter what it costs Daddy. Even though I bought many of the ROF planes, the on-line gravitation towards 'the best ones' put me off it and I wasn't going to be suckered into buying every single one they released just to keep up.

In short, learn to fly what you've got or you'll end up splitting the on-line community.

.....unless of course we have on-line mission builders who will stick to 'stock' aircraft of the last official patch. Then you guys can spend away.

+1
Apart from the fact I really just have no interest in WWI, what you described is exactly what I thought would happen in RoF, if thats true or not I dont know. Also Im quite into history so when people are getting DLC such as super rare optical gunsights and they are just commen, then its a real turnoff.

If IL2 goes down the DLC route as guess it will just be tough but I hope even if they feel they have too that accurate flight and damage models will be at the forefront rather than just cash driven sales.

As for mission makers simply making online missions for the free aircraft (or cockpits, if you wanna nit pick) I think you will find that those will be the unpopulated servers. However with 100 or less players online at anyone time currently anyway, what difference would it make? I really hope the sequal attracts allot more players. I also hope it has more than one map!

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

+1
Apart from the fact I really just have no interest in WWI, what you described is exactly what I thought would happen in RoF, if thats true or not I dont know.

It's not. The RoF free aircraft are competitive. In fact, the Spad 13 is one of the best aircraft in the game.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It's not. The RoF free aircraft are competitive. In fact, the Spad 13 is one of the best aircraft in the game.

So the DLC aircraft, sorry - cockpits, are not so?

EDIT, I just went on the RoF forum and I am confused. Seems its not so free to play as you have to upgrade your demo? Can someone confirm this?

Also the add ons are mostly rediculous. Pistols, scarves and junk. Imagine if I paid 8USD and put an extra cannon on my 109E4? - Adolf Golland style? Something super rare just being included for profit. Nah its just all wrong.

On the instruments?! How can it be WWI if you kit your aircraft out with WWII instuments? Its such a turn off, I know I could just not buy them but knowing I was being out flown because someone had them would make me mad. - then I'd have to buy them....... Never gonna happen.

Nice selection of aircraft, With the sequal maybe IL2 will have the same amount in allot less time too... I just counted: 32 in RoF? 24 in Clod if you count the Heart Breaker... Thats not bad since RoF was out two years before Clod... So if we get only another 9 or more in the sequal flyable then then Clod will have more aircraft.



I just had an idea though if clod does go down the DLC route, just make us that dont like the model buy a bundle pack from the off. Twice ( or more?) the price for everything in that expansion, like "Ost Front", "Mediterranean and North Africa", "Pacific", etc, when it is released as downloadable content we get it automatically without charge. Then those who like to buy DLC can buy it a piece at a time and everyone who doesnt like that can just buy a bundle... That might make everyone happy.

• Those that want to try the sim could do so without a massive price tag or feeling suckered into buying DLC, attracting more customers with a demo version.
• Those who can afford a big pay out per sequal are not put off by the pay for DLC business model. The devs would get a cash injection before they had done the work.
• Those who like the DLC model or could not afford the whole thing in one go could buy piece by piece. Fueling money into the sim long term.

Win for all!

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

So the DLC aircraft, sorry - cockpits, are not so?

EDIT, I just went on the RoF forum and I am confused. Seems its not so free to play as you have to upgrade your demo? Can someone confirm this?

Not so what?

The game is free. That includes 2 free aircraft: Albatros DVa and Spad 13. You can also fly as a gunner online even if you don't own the aircraft that you are flying in. It's called a demo, but it's a demo that never expires. F R E E.

Additional aircraft are currently at 50% discount.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Not so what?

The game is free. That includes 2 free aircraft: Albatros DVa and Spad 13. You can also fly as a gunner online even if you don't own the aircraft that you are flying in. It's called a demo, but it's a demo that never expires. F R E E.

Additional aircraft are currently at 50% discount.

How come I paid £30.00 for it on release then?!

Wait whats this got to do with donations for clod? - Can a business accept donations? What about consumer rights and legalities?