Spit/109 sea level speed comparisons in 1.08 beta patch

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Spitfire 1G CLmax = 1.87

Bf-109E-3 1G CLmax = 1.95

The only way either aircraft can achieve such a CLmax at 1G is in landing configuration with full flaps and gear down.

The CLmax Gates used matches both aircraft in landing configuration.

It is definate proof Gates used the landing configuration CLmax for his estimate.

Clmax is also depend of engine power. Prop wash adds considerable lift due to the higher speed of airflow.

Looking RAE turn charts for 109 and Spitfire there is discribtion:
" Assumed values for Clmax at full throttle ".

So Clmax in RAE charts is not for landing configuration or stall speed ( engine idle) but assumed for full engine power which of course is needed in sustained turn rate.