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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-15-2012, 08:17 AM
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I for one will not be expecting a demo for BOM. I'm very much looking forward to the release though. I really don't think that pre-orders matter very much to them either, so I won't bother to do so. The shots of the Russian map that we viewed where beautiful to me. Smolensk, Kiev unknown but they looked great!!...as a side note, yesterday I realized that the individual land vehicles are capable of speed adjustment. This should be very useful for historical mission design
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:23 AM
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(The same applies for manuals, 10 to 15 years ago, we got a game for 100 DM (about 50€ today), and got a manual with about 100 to 400 pages! Today, we pay the same, well, due to inflation I think even more, and we get a leaflet with 14 pages.

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You got something very wrong about inflation. 100 DM or 50 EUR from 1997 would equal 75 EUR today. CloDs collector edition (with printed manual, pilot's notes and map) was sold for 69.90 EUR by amazon.de at time of release.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:27 AM
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You got something very wrong about inflation. 100 DM or 50 EUR from 1997 would equal 75 EUR today. CloDs collector edition (with printed manual, pilot's notes and map) was sold for 69.90 EUR by amazon.de at time of release.
And next to this; 10-15 years ago we did not pay DM100,00 DM for a game. They were about DM 45,00 which is about € 22,73 today....but this something we should better not reflect.

No, the only difference is; 15 years ago a game worked fine right from the beginning. 10 years ago we got demos and a game was patched once, maybe twice.

Today, we receive no demo, bugged and unfinished produtcs, lousy support and rallying calls to buy sequels....for about € 50,00 or DM 100,00.

That's the point !
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:55 AM
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Sorry, I'm waiting for the reviews. This forum will have many who will say it is magnificent even if it is an unmitigated disaster. And perhaps that it is a disaster when it is not.
This needs to be highlighted.

There are too many people on here for whom the developers can do no wrong, or no right.

A demo is a good idea to let everyone try for themselves.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:04 PM
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A demo ? I assume, no I'm sure that IL2 CLOD customers will receive a free copy of the sequel to download in order to fix the defective product.

Or does Luthier really expect that we do a blind bargain again? No, he can't be that naive.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:16 PM
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As I can not see anything negative about a free BoM-Demo, I would say: Yes, this would be a good thing....
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:48 PM
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I own the CloD Collectors Edition. When/if BoM is released I'll try the "torrent demo" first, fool me once etc etc.
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Or....
You can wait for those of us who will buy the sequel to tell you how it goes before buying
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In years to come this game will hopefully have been refined to a thing of great beauty.
I am willing to invest just a little on that hope.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:57 AM
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In years to come this game will hopefully have been refined to a thing of great beauty.
I am willing to invest just a little on that hope.
Agreed.
I also will be buying without trying I have faith in these guys.
Keep up the great work,they will get there and all these gtripes will be thing of the past.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:01 AM
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Gripes not Gtipes big fingers small keys lol
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