Friday the 14th Development Update

[BGs_Ricky]

Originally Posted by Ploughman

Me, I'll buy the sequel because there's no alternative to this bag of balls at the moment and the £30 it'll cost me is bugger all in the grand scheme of things. One thing's for sure, if nobody buys the sequel, then that really is it.

+1

Hope is the last to die. I don't say I'm happy about the whole COD affair, but in the end I've spent the same amount of money for stuff that I enjoyed even far less than COD

[Ibis]

Well it's as I said before they've had a hampster squillering away in some forgotten corner tinkering with COD while the real work has been on the sequel. Its simple business sense to go after something that may pay the bills.
My concern is about the deceit and non disclosure of the real state of affairs and allowing the resentment to build up in its core customer base.
Bad karma.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by BGs_Ricky

+1

Hope is the last to die. I don't say I'm happy about the whole COD affair, but in the end I've spent the same amount of money for stuff that I enjoyed even far less than COD

Originally Posted by mungee

Thank you Luthier - I'm 100% behind you and, as a financial person, I understand that the sums have to work!!

I, like so many out there (perhaps silent), wish you and your team great success - IL-2 has given us so much enjoyment and I'm sure that CoD, and its sequels, will do likewise.

Originally Posted by Ibis

Well it's as I said before they've had a hampster squillering away in some forgotten corner tinkering with COD while the real work has been on the sequel. Its simple business sense to go after something that may pay the bills.
My concern is about the deceit and non disclosure of the real state of affairs and allowing the resentment to build up in its core customer base.
Bad karma.

+1 to all of you

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

"The next time it will be updated is when you install the sequel over it."

Great news! At least future updates will incorporate and update CLOD.

Thanks for this important information for future development.

Cheers, MP

Originally Posted by FG28_Kodiak

"The next time it will be updated is when you install the sequel over it."

All i want to hear

Originally Posted by naz

I cant speak for anyone else, but this part is important for me. Hopefully you can get the sequel to the level you and we hope for and Cliffs will therefore also benefit.

Good luck and cheers.

Originally Posted by BGs_Ricky

Thanks for clarifying this important point !

+1

On going support and development for the series. Sounds Great! Can't wait for the next update.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

You forgot a very important part of running a business here Luthier, you missed out the word 'CUSTOMERS'. After selling us this product with no mention of any of the problems that you were fully aware of you should put your CUSTOMERS before anything else. You have failed to do that in my honest opinion, your priority for the last 18 months should have been all hands on deck fixing what you sold us rather than concentrating on your next money making scheme.

LOL, where do you live? In the real world it is you don't make money, you're out. Team scattered, and not a single patch for anyone this way. Meeting deadlines for milestones is a necessity in business, and I'm pretty sure if the choice was up to luthier and his crew, it would be different.

Maybe you can change the deadline for the next milestone if you write a nice letter to luthiers bosses, but I'm fairly certain they will only appreciate it for comical value.

[superman]

One and a half year after release and people are still writing posts claming that they have no interest in this game or will not buy the sequel.

Funny

Originally Posted by JtD

LOL, where do you live? In the real world it is you don't make money, you're out. Team scattered, and not a single patch for anyone this way. Meeting deadlines for milestones is a necessity in business, and I'm pretty sure if the choice was up to luthier and his crew, it would be different.

Maybe you can change the deadline for the next milestone if you write a nice letter to luthiers bosses, but I'm fairly certain they will only appreciate it for comical value.

Glad you find it funny, but I suspect because of the awful mess that is CLOD and the amount of time it has taken to still not fix it, and the missing features and the dumbing down of graphics, the poor netcode, the lack of coop's, poor campaign's, the broken GUI in single player etc etc, that the sales of the sequel will reflect what I consider to be rather shoddy treatment from the dev's. If you consider the above to be good for business then you are deluded.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Glad you find it funny, but I suspect because of the awful mess that is CLOD and the amount of time it has taken to still not fix it, and the missing features and the dumbing down of graphics, the poor netcode, the lack of coop's, poor campaign's, the broken GUI in single player etc etc, that the sales of the sequel will reflect what I consider to be rather shoddy treatment from the dev's. If you consider the above to be good for business then you are deluded.

No matter how hard they try they just can't get you to leave.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

No matter how hard they try they just can't get you to leave.

Give it a rest
Shame you and a few others who bow at the feet of the developers didn't do likewise.
You have it in writing from Luthier himself that Clod is effectively finished and they are working on the sequel yet you still have to have a go at Tree

[csThor]

Look Tree ... when luthier's bosses put down their foot and demand a resource switch to something that may bring fresh revenue as opposed to something that doesn't he is not in the position to refuse. Unless you're your own boss you are in a similar state of dependence to those who pay your wages.

For the people who make such decisions at 1C the question of longetivity of a gaming genre or a certain branch of software is of secondary importance (it may be nice but only to bind customers and perhaps generate more money). If the sequel is another dud and fails to generate income they will simply move on to other projects and either reassign Maddox Games to something that's potentially profitable (like some shooter spin-off for the brain-dead) or close MG as a department for good. 1C isn't going to die because Il-2 CloD hasn't been up to specs, it's just a financial loss - nothing more. These suits don't really care about what customers of past titles think, they look for return of their investments and if anyone who has already paid is unhappy then it's too bad for that person. Don't you watch real life news and know what business is like?