why they say a perpetum mobil its imposible what about the drinking bird?

[raaaid]

a thermal engine produces work by balancing to a medium a hot and cold foci, this increases entropy

a fridge takes to extremes both hot and cold foci by giving it work, this increases global entropy

a dinky bird is the 2nd kind, both foci, both in the peak take the foci to the extreme and YET PRODUCES WORK

[WTE_Galway]

[raaaid]

actually the dippy bird makes me realize how stupid i am

maybe you can help me:

water evaporates from the peak gaining energy from the sun

bird produces work

same amount of water condensates giving back all the energy from the sun

then from what energy has the bird produced work?

[Sternjaeger II]

feeling like Stewie here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx...eature=related

[raaaid]

family guy is a new kind of show very usual nowadays

they show a really obnoxious guy so you hate him

then they show him in all kind of disgraces so you enjoy at his suffering

i prefer the simpsons where the opposite happens a good guys rewarded

[winny]

Originally Posted by raaaid

actually the dippy bird makes me realize how stupid i am

maybe you can help me:

water evaporates from the peak gaining energy from the sun

bird produces work

same amount of water condensates giving back all the energy from the sun

then from what energy has the bird produced work?

Raaid, go and google 'dippy bird' there are plenty of pages that describe how these work... They get the energy from the Sun! It's absorbed by the chemical, it rises up the tube, tips the bird, the water then evapourates and the balance is tipped the other way. Gravity is also at work here.. It's not rocket science.

[WTE_Galway]

So if they get energy from the sun why don't they stop at night ?

[winny]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

So if they get energy from the sun why don't they stop at night ?

Because it's stored as heat in the chemical and the atmosphere. If the chemical is warm enough it will rise up the tube, regardless of what time of day it is.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by raaaid

actually the dippy bird makes me realize how stupid i am

Better late than never..

Had a known all it would take is a dippy bird for you to realise it, I would have got you one years ago!

Welcome to reality

[raaaid]

well im stupid cause i cant answer this question can you?

the sun(even at total dark) gives energy to the water in the peak and evaporates

the bird moves

the water condensates giving back ALL THE INITIAL ENERGY and falls as rain

if the sun gives energy to the water but all the energy is given back to rain WITH WHAT ENERGY MOVES THE BIRD?

edit:

the bird is the BEST thermodinamic engine ever known, why?

it works with the lowest temperature difference between cold and hot focii

not sterling can do that no carnot can do that

the science world is manipulated you want proof:

my dad solved fermats theorem in an elemental manner(that is with fermats time maths)

no peer magazine is interested for not being of their interest even if correct

yet a respected online philosophical magazine gives him credit with being the 1st person after fermat who solved the problem FUNDAMENTALLY

http://symploke.trujaman.org/index.p...e=Pedro_Fermat

99% of the science world is endorsed by petrochemicals, what gain would they get if energy was got from giant dinky birds