Bf 110 cockpit, Wahlschalter and bomb load.

[Kodoss]

I had some free time with GIMP and remodelled the cockpit of the C-7.

Bf 110 C-7 CloD.jpg
Cliffs of Dover original cockpit.


The revamped cockpit (more to the real deal).

EDIT: revamped pic deleted, see post #52 for new revamped cockpit!

[III/JG53_Don]

would be great if all these mistakes in the cockpits (not only of the 110) will be corrected in the next patch.... but you can doubt it unfortunately :/

[Kodoss]

Since Blacksix stated that

You will see some CloD aircrafts in the sequel. We'll fix cockpit if we argee with your bug-reports.

I thought of how I can convince them to fix the cockpit of the Bf-110 and give additionally advice for the later Series.

With this post I want to start a series of posts to show the differences in the cockpit between The Bf 110 B to F series.
For the G-series I have not enough material now, but should mostly the same as the F-series.
I will also go into systems and functions a little bit. I will also tell which sources I used.
Help for any of series is appreciated.

My planned orginazation looks like this:
1. Cockpit (pilot)
2. Cockpit (Radio/gunner)

Differences of the Bf-110 B-F cockpits and the conclusions for the CloD cockpit.

Let's begin by zero or better said with the Bf 110 B.
My sources for today:
The drawings: are from the "Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf-110 B mit Jumo 210 G" Dec/1938
The picture: is from "L.Dv.579/1 Bf 110 B und C Bedienvorschrift für starre und bewegliche Schußwaffe" Dec/1938.
Can also be seen in "Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau.
For adding the Fl-number I used the model-code and searched through "Flugzeug-Ausrüstungsgeräte und Anforderungszeichen Mappe 1-3, 10"
If anyone of you have a copy of a " Bf-110 B spare parts catalog", please PM me.


A little description from my side:

16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L2 PFK/f3
16 = Number of the picture
b = position in the picture
Patin-Tochterkompaß = the Name of the object
L2 = electrical position for the wiring diagram
PFK/f3 = model
FL 23338 = military standart spare part number (makes it easy to identify especially when you have "Flugzeug-Ausrüstungsgeräte und Anforderungszeichen Mappe 1-3, 10")


Cockpit left:
Bf 110 B manual cockpit left.jpg
3a) Hebelkasten mit Gas-, Laderschalt- und Brandhahnhebeln (lever box for gas(2), gear(1) and fuel-shut-off lever(2))
3b) Bedienhebel für Höhenhilfsruder (elevator trim)
3c) Boschhorn E26 (signal horn)
3d) Unterbau (plate)
3e) Netzausschalter A35 (für Batterie) (battery off switch)
3f) Zündschalter B11/B12 (ignition switch)
3g) Schalter für Kühlklappenverstellung E37/E38(switch for watercooler)
3i) Richtungsgeber K9 LRg5 FL-22569
3h) Kursmotor K4 LKMo FL-22563
3k) Landeklappenanzeigegerät (landing flaps indicator)
3n) Handräder für Pressluft (Fahrwerk-/Landeklappennotbetätigung) (emergency wheels for pressed air to landing gear and landing flaps)
3o) Manometer für Pressluft (gauge for pressed air)
3p) Laderbedienhebel (Laderschalthebel) (engine gear selector)
3q) Bowdenzug



Cockpit right:
Bf 110 B manual cockpit right.jpg
4a) Handpumpenhebel (fuelpump lever)
4b) Hebel für Kraftstoffventilbatterie (fueltank selector lever)
4c) Bedienhebel für Seitenhilfruder (rudder trim)
4d) Empfindlichkeitsregler für Wendezeiger (sensitivity regulator for turn and bank indicator)
4e) Ausgleichsgefäß für Variometer (adjustment tank for variometer)
4f) Höhenatmer (oxygen breather)
4g) Füllstutzen-Zapfenventil für Höhenatmer (fill vent for oxygen breather)
4h) Vierfachschaltkasten A36 mit selbstschalter für Staurrohrheizung, Gerätebrettlampen, Triebwerksbeleuchtung, Kennlichter und Scheinwerfer
from front to rear 1.) Scheinwerfer (landing light)
2.) Kennlichter (navigational lights)
3.) Gerätebrett-/Motorgondelbeleuchtung (lights for intrument board and engine intrument board)
4.) Staurohrheizung (pitot tube heater)
additionally 5.) Starre waffe P2 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
6.) Starre Waffe P1 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
4i) Anlaßschalter (starter switch)
4k) Unterbau (plate)
4m) Druckknopf C19 für 17c) Lampen C20/C21/C22/C23
4n) Hauptschalter (für Kurssteuerung) K7 LSch4ü FL-22559-1 (Main switch for autopilot)
4o) Anlaßpumpe (starter pump)

Cockpit front:
Bf 110 B manual cockpit front.jpg
16a) Fernkurskreisel K8 LKu4 FL-22561 (directional gyro)
16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L2 PFK/f3 FL-23338
16c) Kompaß (compass)
16d) Fahrwerksanzeigegerät E23 (landing gear indicator)
16e) Borduhr (clock)
16f) Drehzahlmesser M19/M20 (rev counter)
16g) Verdunkler C11
16h) Reststandsanzeiger links M14 (low fuel indicator left)
16i) Reststandsanzeiger rechts M15 (low fuel indicator right)
16k) Notzugknopf für Rudermaschine (emergency pull button for rudder engine(part of the auto pilot))
16l) Ladedruckmesser (boost gauges)
16m) Vorratsanzeiger für Kraftstoff vorne (front fuel indicator) M21
16n) Vorratsanzeiger für Kraftstoff hinten (rear fuel indicator) M23
16o) Kurszeiger K6 LKz3 (course indicator)
16p) elektr. Anzeigegeräte E19/E20 für Luftschraubenverstellung (elect. Propeller pitch indicator)
16q) Staurohrheizungslampe D3 (pitot heater control lamp)
16r) Wendezeiger (turn and bank indicator)
16s) Variometer (rate of climb meter)
16t) Fein-Grobhöhenmesser (altimeter)
16u) Horizont (artificial horizon)
16v) Fahrtmesser (airspeed indicator)
16w) Kühlwassertemperatur (coolant temp gauge)
16x) Anzeiger für Funknavigation (radio navigation indicator)
16Y) Feststellhebel für Horizont (artificial horizon on-off switch)
Bf 110 B cockpit.jpg

Engine gauges:
Bf 110 B manual engine gauges.jpg
17a) Gerätebrett
17c) Lampen C20/C22 bzw. C21/C23 (lamps)
17d) Druckausgleichsventil (pressure valve)
17e) Mech. Anzeigegerät für Luftschraubenverstellung (mech. propeller pitch indicator)
gauges below, front to rear: 1.) Kraftstoff-/Schmierstoffdruckmesser (double gauge Fuel/oil pressure)
2.) Schmierstoff-Ein/Austrittstemperatur (double gauge oil-in/oil-out-temp)
17f) Generator 30V 1200W
17g) Belüftungsrohr für Generator (coolant air tube for generator)
17h) Biegsame Welle zum Verstellmotor

Next will be Cockpit(Pilot) of the Bf 110 C-series.

[Kodoss]

The cockpit(pilot) of the C-series

Sources for this post:
"Instructions for flying the Messerschmitt 110 A.M. pamphlet 114C"
"Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau

Let's begin with a nice picture from the "A.M. Pamphlet 114C" which shows most probably a C-5(missing cannon round indicator).
The pic can also be found in Kenneth A. Merrick's book "german aircraft interiors"/"deutsche Flugzeug-Cockpits"(book is also translated into german).
If it would be a D-series you would see the 2 additional lamps over the horizon.
And since it has so nice numbers for most of the gauges/switches I will only add the FL-#.

Bf-110 C cockpit.jpg

1 FL-32315-2
6 FL-32823-2
9 9-9502 B
12 FL-20342-2
13 FL-20286-3
14 FL-20550
17 FL-32526
20 FL-29723
30 FL-23300
31 FL-22320
32 FL-23338
33 ZVK-FF
34 SSK 404/2
36 FL-22402
37 FL-22382 in this C-5 (FL-22381-10 in other C-Series? see cockpit of C-1/B)
38 most probalby FL-22426 with the on-off switch 39
40 FL-22231
41 FL-23233
43 FL-22478
The little button [Spkf 1] left to the Revi holder is for bord to bord radio.

Here a little close up of the same pic in better quality.

Bf-110 C cockpit closup.jpg

Have a look at the rev counter (36 as the last number) and the boost gauge plate( d=1,15 ata / |=1,2 ata(30 min.)/ |=1,3 ata(5 min.) for 87 octane fuel)

Now 3 pictures of C-1/B 2N+GN WNr. 2831 build at MIAG(Mühlenbau und Industrie AG) in 1939 and downed by Swiss Bf-109 E's on 8 June 1940.
The interesting part are the 2 white lamps above the horizon, which shouldn'd be in the C-Series.

Bf-110 C-1B Cockpit front.jpg
Bf-110 C-1B cockpit left.jpg
Look at which angle the landing flap indicator is still readable. Also no button box on the left side.
Bf-110 C-1B cockpit right.jpg

The next post will continue with the C-series cockpit(pilot) and show some manual drawings.
If there are questions I will try to answer them.

[Kodoss]

Sources for today:
"vorläufige Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf 110 C" - 1. June 1939 (first 4 drawings)
"Betriebsanleitung Bf 110 C mit Anhang Bf 110 D-0" - Februar 1940 (last drawing)

The first 4 drawings show the cockpit layout for june 1939.
You see the Fernkurskreisel LKu4 still in there, like in the B-series.

Left side
Bf-110 C manual cockpit left.jpg
3a) Hebelkasten
3b) Gashebel (gas lever)
3c) Handpumpenhebel (hand pump lever)
3d) Brandhahnhebel (fuel-shut-off/pump lever)
3e) Ölkühlerklappenhebel (oil radiator lever)
3f) Verstellvorrichtung Höhenhilfsruder (elevator trim)
3g) Stoßstange
3h) Netzausschalter A28
3i) Handräder für Preßluftsperrventile (emergency vents for gear and flaps)
3k) Druckknopfschalter für Fahrwerk (landing gear buttons)
3m) Druckknopfschalter für Landeklappen (landing flaps button)
3n) Druckmesser (pressure gauge)
3o) Zündschalter B7/B8
3p) Boschhorn E31
3q) Richtungsgeber K2 LRg5
3r) Landeklappen-Anzeigegerät (landing gear indicator)
3s) Bowdenzug
3t) Verstellschalter E17/E18 für Propellerverstellung (prop pitch switch)

Cockpit panel
Bf-110 C manual cockpit front.jpg
16a) Fernkurskreisel K3 LKu4
16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L1 PfK/f3
16c) Wendezeiger
16d) position for ZVK-FF
16e) Druckmesser Pressluft
16f) Fahrwerksanzeigegerät E19
16g) Schalter E20/E22 für Kühlerklappenverstellung
16h) Drehzahlmesser M18/M19
16i) Kühlstofftemperatur-Messgerät M9
16k) Kühlstofftemperatur-Messgerät M17
16m) Reststandsanzeigegeräte M11,M12,M14,M15
16n) Umschalter M16 für Kraftstoffvorratsanzeiger
16o) Kraftstoffvorratsanzeiger M13
16p) Staurohr-Schauzeichen D3
16q) Kurszeiger K4 LKz3
16r) Notzugknopf
16s) Verstellschalter E17/E18 für Propellerverstellung
16t) elektrische Anzeigegeräte E22/E23 für Propellerverstellung
above d) SSK 404/2 and Wahlschalter (main control panel for MGs and switch for 2MG-4MG)
above q) Anzeiger für Funknavigation AFN1


Right side
Bf-110 C manual cockpit right.jpg
17a) Bedienhebel Seitenhilfsruder (rudder trim)
17b) Höhenatmer (oxygen breather)
17c) Vierfachschaltkasten A36 mit selbstschalter für Staurrohrheizung, Gerätebrettlampen, Triebwerksbeleuchtung, Kennlichter und Scheinwerfer
Switch box
from front to rear 1.) Scheinwerfer (landing light)
2.) Kennlichter (navigational lights)
3.) Gerätebrett-/Motorgondelbeleuchtung (lights for intrument board and engine intrument board)
4.) Staurohrheizung (pitot tube heater)
additionally 5.) Starre waffe P2 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
6.) Starre Waffe P1 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
17d) Empfindlichkeitsregler für Wendehorizont
17e) Gerätebank
17f) Verdunkler C16
17g) Schalter M25 für Kraftstoff-Umpumpanlage
17h) Hauptschalter K5 LSch4ü für Kurssteuerung/Patinkompaßanlage (main switch for auto course)
17i) Umschaltplatte
17k) Griffe für Kerzenabbrennung (ignitor cleaning handle)
17m) Füllstutzen-Zapfenventil (Höhenatmer)
17n) Fernbedienknopf für Anlaßtrennschalter A36
17o) Anlaßpumpe
17p) Schalthahn ( für Verneblerleitung? )
17q) Anlaßschalter B9
17r) Anlaßschalter B10

Engine panel
Bf-110 C manual engine gauges.jpg
11a) mechanische Anzeigevorrichtung (Fahrwerk) (mechanical indicator for landing gear / only early C-1 aircraft)
11b) Bowdenzug
11c) Gerätetafel
11d) Steckdose C7/Stecker C6
11e) Gerätelampe C2
11f) Gerätelampe C3
11g) Abzweigdose C4
11h) Gerätetafel
11i) Halterung für Gerätetafel
11k) mechanisches Anzeigegerät für Propellerverstellung (mechanical prop pitch indicator)
gauges below, front to rear: 1.) Kraftstoff-/Schmierstoffdruckmesser (double gauge Fuel/oil pressure)
2.) Schmierstoff-Ein/Austrittstemperatur (double gauge oil-in/oil-out-temp, 2 pointer)

And now the cockpit panel layout of "Betriebsanleitung Bf 110 C mit Anhang Bf 110 D-0" Februar 1940
Teil 9 - Ausrüstung (part 9 - equipment), side 9-01.
Bf-110 C manual feb40 instruments.jpg
See the new Kursgeber (course selector) below the Patin-Tochterkompaß (daughter compass).
This course selector stayed until the E-series.

The MG and gun counter aren't part of this manual.
There are to find in "Bf 110 B und C Bedienvorschrift für die starre und bewegliche Schußwaffe, L.Dv. 579/1".

[Kodoss]

Since the C and D series were build at the same time let us have a look at the cockpit of the D-series.

My sources for today:
"Report-No. 260-28 Analysis of the Messerschmitt Me-110 Airplane" from Vultee Aircraft Inc.
"Life" Magazine from 21. April 1941 Page 34/35
"Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau
"Beschreibung und Einbau der Zusatzanlagen für das Flugzeugmuster Bf 110 D L.Dv.T2413/1(Entwurf) / (Nachtrag 1)" from November 1940

The first 3 pictures are from the Bf-110 D-0/B W.Nr.3341 S9+CK build in Juli 1940 and shot down on 15. August 1940.
Just look at the Revi holder with the "Schwenkplatte SP 1A" for the Revi C12/D which should also be in every C-7.

Bf-110 D-0B cockpit-2.jpg
Bf 110 D-0B.jpg
Bf-110 D-0B cockpit.jpg

The only 39 new build C-7 were produced from Juli 1940 to September 1940 (see "Messerschmitt Bf 110, Me 210, Me 410" from Heinz Mankau/Peter Petrick)
So we have a good look at the same equipment in the instrument panel.
Here is a drawing out of the manual which shows the instrument panel of a C-series with the additional 2 lamps for the D-Series.
Bf-110 D nov40.jpg

In my next post I will show what we have in "Cliffs of Dover" as a cockpit for the C-7.

[Toni74]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

I had some free time with GIMP and remodelled the cockpit of the C-7.

Attachment 10751
Cliffs of Dover original cockpit.

Attachment 10752
The revamped cockpit (more to the real deal).

Really nice work! This is what I wish for the C model. Even the "Umschaltwarnung" tag and the two white lamps are wrong in the C model.

I found already are some more issues at bugtracker tool but I think nobody of developers is interested in reading them :/

http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/126
http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/124

[Kodoss]

I had to rework my cockpit pic a little, since I forgot that the box for the prop lever had just another shape instead of deleting it completely.

So here is the new revamped cockpit.
Bf 110 C-7.jpg
The only thing that is still missing (not good at painting) is the ON-OFF switch for the artificial Horizon.

And here are the promised CloD C-7 pics.
Clod C-7 cockpit front.jpg
Clod C-7 cockpit left.jpg
Clod C-7 right.jpg

The wrong Box(came with E-series) with wrong labeling(all of them are fuel pump circuit breaker).
Clod C-7 Box.jpg
Note: The early D-series models had glass circuit breaker for each fuel pump. The thermal circuit breaker (as seen in the pic) were introduced later, so we can assume that they came with the E-series.
And the circuit breaker for the FT-Anlage (Radio-com) is in the main panel by the gunner on the right side of the plane (which is not modeled by the way, but that's for later).

Edit: dammit, I have to rework the stupid Prop lever box again. it should only be the half depth(end at the same level as the gear/flap switches).
Edit2: rework done.

[Toni74]

Kodoss are you sure with the prop pitch lever console? I think that the C type didn't have such a console at all and the pitch levers stuck on the dash board surface directly.

The "cut" version of that console I would guess was introduced in D type first.

[Kodoss]

Originally Posted by Toni74

Kodoss are you sure with the prop pitch lever console? I think that the C type didn't have such a console at all and the pitch levers stuck on the dash board surface directly.

The "cut" version of that console I would guess was introduced in D type first.

Look at post #48 and #49.
Especially in '49 is a drawing of the left cockpit side, which shows the box.

As written in this post it's from "Vorläufige Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf 110 C" - 1. June 1939.
So it existed from the beginning in the C-series to the E-series.

Somewhere in the E-series it was changed, since the place of the "Auto-Manuell" switches on the right side of the instrument panel were needed for other instruments. See above the left rev-counter.
Bf-110 E May 41.jpg
pic from
"D.(Luft)T.2110 C,D und E Teil 8B, Heft 1
Bf 110 C, D und E Flugzeughandbuch
Teil 8B: Einbau und Prüfung der Abwurfwaffe
Heft 1: Bf 110 E" - May 1941