British FM killing the fun of the game for allied pilots.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Longywales

Yeah, same results with temp off...it must be the temp effects causing the fault then....

Maybe you guys at ATAG could make a server with temp effects off for the time being

Good thought.

We need to see if other aircraft (notably 109's, 110's) are adversely affected by switching Temp Effects off. I don't have the hours (ie competence) to extract maximum performance from these two aircraft -- hopefully somebody here can and will report back.

So far, this is an interesting development.

[Crumpp]

It wasn't any AI which controlled the aircraft

AI operates the engine when CEM is off....

Well it's a good job you're around to tell us these things.

Well, Not trying to be a jerk. Just pointing out you guys argue and argue for no reason about aircraft performance when most don't even understand the conditions or the proper settings for the aircraft.

For example!!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...95&postcount=9

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

AI operates the engine when CEM is off....





Well, Not trying to be a jerk. Just pointing out you guys argue and argue for no reason about aircraft performance when most don't even understand the conditions or the proper settings for the aircraft.

For example!!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...95&postcount=9

You've missed the point completely I'm afraid. When Human Beings flew the real aircraft, obtaining the real test results of the real thing, at no time did AI control the aircraft.

The speed figures obtained in real life should therefore be possible within the simulator when all aspects of control are being managed by a Human Being.

Simply turning off temperature effects makes the Spit 20mph faster at sea level, 'with all gauges in the green', when compared to performance in the same test with temperature effects switched on, also 'with all gauges in the green'.

A possible error in the game's programming is what is being suggested here, connected with the temperature management settings affecting engine performance adversely.

[Crumpp]

at no time did AI control the aircraft.

I know AI did not control the aircraft but it is the game that controls the engine when you turn temperture effects off.

The speed figures obtained in real life should therefore be possible within the simulator when all aspects of control are being managed by a Human Being.

Exactly, we are saying the same thing.

It might help to see how the AI is working the engine.

You should see the same performance if the system is operated the same as the AI.

A possible error in the game's programming is what is being suggested here, connected with the temperature management settings affecting engine performance adversely.

'with all gauges in the green'

It boils down to asking if anything is being operated differently by the game when temperature effects are turned off. Is the oil cooler flaps in a different position, radiator controls, etc....

[Crumpp]

When Human Beings flew the real aircraft,

And two pilots will rarely get the same performance from the same aircraft.

I just showed a friend of mine with a Seminole how to get ~ 7 knots more out of his airplane. All I did was properly lean, set rpm/manifold pressure at it's most efficient approved settings, and use his cowl flaps correctly.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

It boils down to asking if anything is being operated differently by the game when temperature effects are turned off. Is the oil cooler flaps in a different position, radiator controls, etc....

The oil cooler is non-adjustable in the Spit. With temp effects off, the radiator flap is fixed fully open. The test I conducted with regard to speed at sea level with temperature effects on was also conducted with rad fully open.

All parameters which are available to be equalised were equalised. Yet performance is more true to life with temps off than temps on.

Now awaiting results from other game users in other aircraft.