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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:23 AM
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Hi Lud, did any Staffel test if formations work fps-wise?

And i would recomend a Geschwader-day on ATAG..
@Allons, sorry I missed your post. Yes no problems with fps flying in formation. We are doing more tests these days and will report back

@David, great I will contact you (through sandokito).

@Blackdog: yes your method is good and works.

Just to have another in your bag of tricks, if you plan to use precalculated TAS, I confirmed that if you calculate TAS taking OAT (outside air temperature into account) into account, the results are perfect.

Here you are a good resource for doing the maths:
http://www.luizmonteiro.com/Altimetry.aspx#TrueAirspeed

So in your bombing run, switch to your pilot position, and check the OAT in your upper left panel, input that value and correct the TAS with the deviation from the standard atmosphere.

Now, the wind. As we know, we have to correct the TAS with the front component of the Wind speed to obtain GS.

But another thing I noticed in my test ( and I believe that the devs modelled ), is that because the form factor of the bombs and the aircraft are completely different, and the trajectory of the bomb makes it face the wind in the worst aerodynamic manner possible, the effect of the wind on the bombs can not be estimated as easy as using GS as input. If you use GS the bombs will fall short.

Unless the devs model a drift compensation, it needs to be tabulated. You have to lower it a little to compensate that effect, in my tests 15 km/h for 10 m/s and 20 km/h for 20 m/s wind, but take that values as a start point as I did not have the time to measure them precisely.

Bear in my mind that this was for a mission with 250 kg bombs, a constant flow of wind from surface to 10 km, and no gusts and no changes of wind directions. If you program a mission with all these possible features, the thing gets more and more complicated.

I agree with Keller that IMO the 250 kg bombs should do more damage- Did not test the 50 kg bombs yet, but I think as Blackdog that you have to compensate manually and build tables from experimentation.

Very happy with the sim now.

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Old 09-07-2012, 10:24 AM
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i just wanted to say, thx ZG26 for your cooperation with JG26&ACG.

its great fun to fly with you guys and cover you.

to all other bomber pilots, we are still searching for bombers to escort.
we now have a regular event every week, where ACG(No.501,No64,JG26) and ZG26 fly with/against each other on our 71st-ACG combined server.
it alternates every week between Wednesday and Thursday.
Next event is Thursday 7pm GMT.

All are welcome, fighterpilots as well on both sides.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:39 AM
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i just wanted to say, thx ZG26 for your cooperation with JG26&ACG. Its great fun to fly with you guys and cover you.
Hi David, same here. Would love to have a Ju88 horibombing component as well. Looking forward to more pilots on the red side and a better netcode....

Best, Allons!
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