German bombers so much tougher than RAF bombers?

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

A lot depends on what weapons you have, shooting within your convergence and what you hit.

Yup. My response above is relating to the latest patch only, which I assumed the OP meant. In the new patch, Ju88s particularly seem much tougher than before this patch.

That's what I thought the OP meant. If he meant generally speaking, well the 88 was notoriously tough to take down. Stukas not so much. I got a few shots into one online the other day but it was brought down mostly by that chap 'bofors'.

There does appear to be a difference in the new patch, hence my suggestion for 'investigation'.

[trademe900]

Yes, what I originally meant was I tested to see using RAF fighters on RAF bombers and German fighters on German bombers. No matter what, the German bombers are extremely tough (especially he111) and the RAF bombers are a joke.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by trademe900

Yes, what I originally meant was I tested to see using RAF fighters on RAF bombers and German fighters on German bombers. No matter what, the German bombers are extremely tough (especially he111) and the RAF bombers are a joke.

I have done a bit of ballistic testing on most of the aircraft (machine gun). I can find no evidence that the DM has changed at all with the latest patch. All the aircraft have their own weak spots, and that must be the target area to aim for. Experimenting with belt loads and convergence is a good first step.

[SlipBall]

Here you go boys...sorry for wasting ammo but your birds have a lot of guns

[Osprey]

German bombers are a doddle to bring down if you get 2-3 secs into the right spot. No problem to get 4 with the belts in the RAF types. a shallow dive from 5 or 7 high is safe enough with speed, you can access above the armour plating protecting the tanks from there.

Ju88 and Do17 - hit just inside the engine on top of the wing
He111 - hit just outside the engine on top of the wing

This will cause at worst big black smoke as the type wheels away into a death dive, at best an explosion which takes off the wing.

FW200 is easy too.

BR20, that's something else, I've given up attacking them - any solutions?

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Osprey

German bombers are a doddle to bring down if you get 2-3 secs into the right spot. No problem to get 4 with the belts in the RAF types. a shallow dive from 5 or 7 high is safe enough with speed, you can access above the armour plating protecting the tanks from there.

Ju88 and Do17 - hit just inside the engine on top of the wing
He111 - hit just outside the engine on top of the wing

This will cause at worst big black smoke as the type wheels away into a death dive, at best an explosion which takes off the wing.

FW200 is easy too.

BR20, that's something else, I've given up attacking them - any solutions?

Yes of course, but I don't want to be charged with treason!

this crew bailed, so no hit count

[macro]

i hit the tails of br20's, they come off sometimes, or something catches fire

[tools4fools]

BR20, that's something else, I've given up attacking them - any solutions?

Come in slightly from the side, aim for fuselage, about where the wings are. Burns nicely.
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As pointed out above it's the guns that make the difference. 109 or 110 with 20mm downs German bombers easy.

Guess there is a reason why later Spits (and Hurries) had cannons - and why the Typhoon went from 12 0.303 to 4 cannon...

Shooting from dead 6 with Brit MG's has little effect. Come in with some angle and hit weak points at close distance and in convergence and you will get them down.