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Old 08-02-2012, 01:00 AM
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Jack Ruby/ Lee Harvey Oswald
Jack Ruby...

Convicted of the murder [of Lee Harvey Oswald] on March 14, 1964

15 second google search.

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Old 08-02-2012, 01:12 AM
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For those that have noted that we in America, and more specifically me, are, "scared", why do you feel so "safe" and unafraid in your country?

Do you think the people in your country who were brutally assaulted or murdered felt/feel that way as well? Do you wonder what they were thinking as they lay on the ground bleeding to death? Or what they were thinking when the last boot (that they remember) smashed into their head (or fist, pipe, bat, etc)?

Why do you believe you are different from them...that it won't happen to you?

And in response to those claims...

I am not afraid on a daily basis. But I do know how quickly things can go from a great day sitting on the porch to one of utter terror and chaos. If you're wondering, it's less than a second. And I do not delude myself into thinking it can't happen again. I was prepared then and I will prepared if it happens in the future.

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Old 08-02-2012, 01:13 AM
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Jack Ruby...

Convicted of the murder [of Lee Harvey Oswald] on March 14, 1964

15 second google search.

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Show me ONE SINGLE INSTANCE of someone "summarily executing" a "random or potential criminal" here in the US without prosecution.


Jack Ruby/ Lee Harvey Oswald

Jack Ruby summarliy executed Oswald
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:26 AM
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Wow, I shouldn't have to but, here goes...


And he was prosecuted.

I didn't ask to be shown a person who summarily executed someone. I asked to show me one who did it WITHOUT prosecution.

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Old 08-02-2012, 01:37 AM
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Wow, I shouldn't have to but, here goes...


And he was prosecuted.

I didn't ask to be shown a person who summarily executed someone. I asked to show me one who did it WITHOUT prosecution.

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Show me ONE SINGLE INSTANCE of someone "summarily executing" a "random or potential criminal" here in the US without prosecution.

maybe it was just the way you wrote it
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:46 AM
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maybe it was just the way you wrote it
Well then, feel free to enlighten me on the correct way to write such a sentence.

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Old 08-02-2012, 01:49 AM
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Well then, feel free to enlighten me on the correct way to write such a sentence.

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"Show me ONE SINGLE INSTANCE of someone who had "summarily executed" a "random or potential criminal" here in the US, without being prosecuted for it."
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:02 AM
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Some say they don't believe the atrocities of WW2 that affected millions of people.

So, what if every bit of what you read or view isn't all true. There were so many murders and mistreatments of people during WW2 that are corroborated by competent witnesses to make freedom to own a gun extremely important. It is just common sense to own a gun, for your personal protection and defense of your property.

Eisenhower insisted german citizens in the proximity of the death camps be forced to walk through those camps after they were secured by the army. It was not about conviction on the part of those persons for their lack of caring or lack of action. It was to have millions of witnesses to the atrocities. There are so many witnesses the atrocities can not be refuted legitimately.

There are many people trying to deny the holocaust today, but that boat doesn't float. There are too many corroborations of the atrocities on film and photographs as well.

There are people that are totally irrational, angry and cannot be fixed to fit normalized society.

If you spend some time on Suicide hotlines, where pre-suicidal people call in one of the first things they teach you is to never say "go ahead and do it".

THe lesson to learn is this...when people discuss hatred like killing people,etc. THey should be taken as serious as someone sharing thoughts about committing suicide. They should at the very least be referred for observation and possible detainment to determine their resolves in such matters.

Stand in a pre-plane boarding security line and joke about bombs, make some kind of veiled threat or even discuss a possible security issue. People will report you, and the authorities will remand you to some form of custody to discuss your remarks. They will definitely detain you long enough for you to miss your flight, lesson learned.
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Yes... and in the case of some "gunmen" going berko in the campus, the indicators were there beforehand.

but, we can't just go and pick someone up and put them under "observation" because someone may think they're wierd... they usually go berko because they've been taunted and called wierd once too often
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:35 AM
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You can be taken into custody and held for up to 72 hours in the US on suspicion of a crime.

During those 72 hours the questioning can definitely be done by professional persons, i.e., psychiatrist or psychologist.

Yes, council may be all that is possible, but family members could be brought in to assist. Family intervention may not be enforceable, but I do believe most families would realize the problem after discussions with competent persons and be willing to help.

I believe the parents or family members of the recent mass murderers would have been very willing to help to protect the life of their family member and possible victims.

Family and psycho intervention might have abated the Columbine, and other mass murders.

When people have psych problems, they don't usually get well without medication, monitoring and intervention.
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