Friday Official Update, July 27, 2012

[Corto]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

....because they keep getting told the same things week in and week out.

no... there was a new reason this week : ... he was ill and Luthier was out of office... (both took place at the same time)
next week... there will be something different... be sure... seriously

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

I think they should just not say anything about when they expect a patch. I wanna know what they are working on, but no more timelines, no more Maybe this week maybe next. Too many people here think the forum is made of stone, and that everything written in it is law. Take the Eagle Dynamics mind set, it will be available for download when its ready, dont ask when that is, its done when its done.

Agreed 100%

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

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rotfl

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

I agree with Frey. It might be considered a better development if it were a sealed section for hater members only but then I guess they would get bored of it pretty quickly because they wouldn't have anyone to troll. LoL

Bingo!

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

We get told they have fixed a major bug (last week it was 5 mins ago) and all the rest of the work has been carried out, but then the following week it never ever seems to go well and we are back to square one not Knowing what has happened.

What you just described is known as beta testing in the software world.. Minus the square one comment, which is just your opinion.

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Nobody from the team makes any announcement about what has happened

Which is true of many software companies..

Where they found it silly to spend a lot of time and effort explaining the results of a beta patch..

In that the full intent of a beta patch is to release it knowing in advance 'some' aspects are unfinished, un-optimized, or flat out broken

But the purpose (hope) is by releasing a beta patch they can obtain feedback from the community as to 'other' aspects of the program.

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

and some people start to think they are just been taken for a ride.

Fixed that for ya

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I have said it before and i'll say it till I am blue in the face, don't keep saying you are trying to push out a patch each week until you know for certain it works. Then you can tell everyone when you are going to release it - SIMPLES!!

Which is what they do with a final release patch, but don't do, on purpose, with a beta patch.

The whole purpose of putting out a beta patch is to 'see' if it works..

If not..

Find and fix what is broken..

wash rinse repeat

Until they can find no more errors

And even after all that there is no guarantee (ie be 'certain')

But they do this so they can be as 'certain' as they can be when they release the 'official' patch.

The only real mistake 1C makes in all this is when they assume the users of beta patches understand what beta patch means. In that based on the responses in this thread and others that is clearly not the case!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

The only real mistake 1C makes in all this is when they assume the users of beta patches understand what beta patch means

We also know what an Alpha build is...which is what got boxed up and put on the shelves pretending to be retail only to get the attitude later "Sorry...we needed your money"

[Pudfark]

It ain't my kitchen.
It ain't my pot.
It ain't my job.
It's our "stew".

I don't mean anything ugly by that above...
I'd just like to have a downloadable Steam Patch for this sim.

Like others....I'm tired of Stewing,
Stirring and the like.

later....

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Force10

We also know what an Alpha build is...which is what got boxed up and put on the shelves pretending to be retail only to get the attitude later "Sorry...we needed your money"

Man you should put your specs in your sig, maybe one of us here can help you to start enjoying the game, while waiting for other improvement. It is really such a great great flight sim, even now... and just wait, its gonna be sick!

[_YoYo_]

[Force10]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Man you should put your specs in your sig, maybe one of us here can help you to start enjoying the game, while waiting for other improvement. It is really such a great great flight sim, even now... and just wait, its gonna be sick!

No need for that...the sim runs pretty smooth on my rig except for the ground micro stutter. Myself being on offline player, am waiting for all the other bug fixes that affect the single player experience. (IE: Working Radio commands...etc etc.)

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Force10

No need for that...the sim runs pretty smooth on my rig except for the ground micro stutter. Myself being on offline player, am waiting for all the other bug fixes that affect the single player experience. (IE: Working Radio commands...etc etc.)

I am mostly off-line as-well right now, been having a blast with it. I am well aware of the problems with the game, but am having an enjoyable 1/2 hour each day... I was forced down to a field, and came to rest near a farm house with a thatched roof and a windmill that was spinning around. Only saying that there is a tremendous amount of enjoyment to be had right NOW.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I am mostly off-line as-well right now, been having a blast with it. I am well aware of the problems with the game, but am having an enjoyable 1/2 hour each day... I was forced down to a field, and came to rest near a farm house with a thatched roof and a windmill that was spinning around. Only saying that there is a tremendous amount of enjoyment to be had right NOW.

I have been having some sporatic fun as well. I recently have been messing around with the dynamic campaign generator that someone created. It has it's moments and once the game is patched up I hope someone explores this further. I don't have too much time for the FMB so I have to use what I can find.

I do appreciate your enthusiasm though! Mind if I ask if you are flying single missions, downloaded ones, or campaign?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Force10

We also know what an Alpha build is...which is what got boxed up and put on the shelves pretending to be retail only to get the attitude later "Sorry...we needed your money"

And with that I see that I need to update my statment to the following..

The only real mistake 1C makes in all this is when they assume the users of alpha/beta patches understand what alpha/beta patch means. In that based on the responses in this thread and others that is clearly not the case!