Stability and Control characteristics of the Early Mark Spitfires

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Oh, you guys

I love it how for some people this is a red vs blue argument, so they make jabs at the 190 as if to "stick it" to the "blue guys".

Go back through the thread; comes up all the time.

Nope, I have nothing to do with red or blue - just pointing out that if Robtek wants to be consistent about aircraft control characteristics in IL2 replicating real life then there are lots of WW2 aircraft which had a problem with their handling.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by NZtyphoon

Nope, I have nothing to do with red or blue - just pointing out that if Robtek wants to be consistent about aircraft control characteristics in IL2 replicating real life then there are lots of WW2 aircraft which had a problem with their handling.

Yeah, there are lots. But this thread is about the Spitfire. You just "randomly chose" the 190, I'm sure.

Not because it was a German aircraft gimme a break.

[Crumpp]

Keep the thread on topic and stop with the "red vs blue" baloney.

[FS~Phat]

Ditto.... getting the picture gents?????

[FS~Phat]

Thread open again.. gents please stay civil. Next time several of you will incur 5 point general infractions or worse if you cant keep it from getting personal.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

Thread open again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKXEmXB7h3E

[Crumpp]

There were stories of Spit wings in huge piles at maintenance units as fractured wings were replaced after sharp pullouts at low levels

http://members.madasafish.com/~d_hod...wker-Vspit.htm

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Yeah, there are lots. But this thread is about the Spitfire. You just "randomly chose" the 190, I'm sure.

Not because it was a German aircraft gimme a break.

As far as I can tell there are no rules against citing German aircraft as an example of potentially deadly flight characteristics - FYI four books I have bought in the last few months are on the Do 335, the Ar 234 the Bf 110/Me 210 and 410 series and the JG26 war diaries pt 1, so attempting to claim anti-German bias on my part is a waste of time.

Back to the Spitfire - with all the claims being made that early marks of the Spitfire had bad longitudinal stability how did this show itself in real life? Apart from a set of pilot's notes and a NACA report, stating that it did not meet certain criteria, how much evidence exists of pilots complaining that they were nearly killed by a sudden, dangerous stall leading to a spin while pulling up in a tight turn? Are there any reports from Luftwaffe pilots stating that a Spitfire they had bounced lost its wings while trying to escape? Is there anything proving that Spitfires were destroyed between 1939 and 1941 because of bad longitudinal stability?