SHOOTING at the OLYMPICS

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

I would have to agree, it shows his maturity level is probably not high enough to have a grown up discussion about a topic like this....

So people who disagree with your views (and that is what they are, not facts) are whiners.... Also very mature.

I own guns, but we never used assault rifles or 100 round magazines for hunting. I can understand why restricting or limiting purchase of these weapons and magazines seems reasonable as their apparent function is only to kill humans.

It's that I'm sick and tired of people that complain about gun ownership, as if that is the real problem behind violence, and not the totally lost values of modern societies.

A 100 rounds magazine is surely OTT, and frankly it's just a useless piece of accessory(I don't understand people that like slaughtering their barrels by shooting that much in a row), but how is that different from owning ten 10 rounds magazines? A trained Car-15 owner can easily reload his rifle in less than 7 seconds.

"Assault rifle" is only a designation, an MP-44 is one, but it's also an extremely sought after collectable WW2 firearm, shall we ban it just cos it can cycle rounds on a semiauto mode?

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It's that I'm sick and tired of people that complain about gun ownership, as if that is the real problem behind violence, and not the totally lost values of modern societies.

I understand and agree, but it was the whiners thing that actually made me have to post... (and what MadBlaster said, but I don't expect him to have a reasonable discussion on the issue).

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

A 100 rounds magazine is surely OTT, and frankly it's just a useless piece of accessory(I don't understand people that like slaughtering their barrels by shooting that much in a row), but how is that different from owning ten 10 rounds magazines? A trained Car-15 owner can easily reload his rifle in less than 7 seconds.

The reload time gives people more of a chance to shoot back. (I don't know what OTT means) Spree shooters are often not trained gun owners and may take a bit longer to reload than you do. The kid in Aurora (I live in Aurora BTW and lost a co-worker in the shooting) was not some ex-military badass... he was a pissed off psychopath with no combat experience so his reload time would have been much slower (didn't he jam his assault rifle?).

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

"Assault rifle" is only a designation, an MP-44 is one, but it's also an extremely sought after collectable WW2 firearm, shall we ban it just cos it can cycle rounds on a semiauto mode?

Possibly (I am only vaguely familiar with the 1st assault rifle so I'm not trying to duck the question but it's 526am here and I don't wanna preach about something I am not terribly familiar with), but I don't believe that the MP-44 is being used in a ton of home invasions and crimes. The truth of the matter is that there are limits to the firearms we can legally own (in the USA) so it's really just a matter of where the line is drawn. Some see a waiting period or a background check as an affront to their freedom/liberty others see it as important for the public good. Honestly if someone needs a gun today... RIGHT NOW!!!! they probably should have to wait a few days to get it.

I am ok with waiting periods, background checks, & limiting the magazine size (I get that you think the mag size is irrelevant - we can disagree on that). are you against a reasonable waiting period and background check (even at gun shows)?

[von Pilsner]

Over The Top.... Just figured it out.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

The reload time gives people more of a chance to shoot back. (I don't know what OTT means) Spree shooters are often not trained gun owners and may take a bit longer to reload than you do. The kid in Aurora (I live in Aurora BTW and lost a co-worker in the shooting) was not some ex-military badass... he was a pissed off psychopath with no combat experience so his reload time would have been much slower (didn't he jam his assault rifle?).

That's the point, someone who's not an expert will get a 100 rounds magazine and think he won't have problems with it, but those things are prone to jamming and the continuous shooting with no breaking can overheat and jam the gun as well (a good quality Car-15 won't, but there are many replicas, Norinco above all, that are not worth the materials they're made of..).

He was just a deluded individual who fed himself with FPS games and that was left alone long enough to become that dangerous. Maybe we should look at that, maybe we should consider that the path to reach that sort of derangement is not an overnight spark, but often made of months, years of isolation.

As for the other posts after yours, I would like to say again that I am for a more intelligent and strict control on firearm licenses, not for giving them to everybody. And feel free to believe in fairy tales, if with GDR you're referring to Germany Democratic Republic, they overcame only cos Russia crumbled, otherwise they'd still be living the commie dream and spying each other under the Stasi.

If that horrible assault happened in Texas or Alabama you can rest assured that someone in the public would have been armed and could have put a couple of rounds in the idiot's head..

[ATAG_Doc]

The UN has no authority here. They can only ask. Life will go on as usual and guns and clips will be extra bountiful tomorrow. The US doesn't have to abide by anything related to the UN. We didn't elect them. That is settled.

[ATAG_Doc]

Almost 8000 people die in automobile accidents during the first 3 months of 2011. That is a far more deadly tool. Ban the automobile!

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

Almost 8000 people die in automobile accidents during the first 3 months of 2011. That is a far more deadly tool. Ban the automobile!

How many of those automobile deaths were deliberate?

[ATAG_Doc]

COME AND TAKE'EM U.N.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjvfqp4ONYc

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

Almost 8000 people die in automobile accidents during the first 3 months of 2011. That is a far more deadly tool. Ban the automobile!

So, how many people ride to work on their bullets?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

So, how many people ride to work on their bullets?

Use a bicycle