The 'Great Debate' - Spitfire vs BF109

[Crumpp]

I believe the ball as they say is firmly in your court.

Not really...

The game has been over for quite a while. You and some others continue to play on because you do not realize it as you do not understand the information presented.

You don't really want to understand and I am not going to force you either.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Not really...

The game has been over for quite a while. You and some others continue to play on because you do not realize it as you do not understand the information presented.

You don't really want to understand and I am not going to force you either.

Ah yes, Crumpp's vast experience in aerodynamics and engineering - I guess it must be so frustrating being the only person who knows all there is to know about these subjects, while the rest of the world is made up of ignoramus'. What a shame that Reginald Mitchell did not have the benefit of Crumpp's vast capabilities - the Spitfire would have been a much better aircraft. And Jeffrey Quill could have done with Crumpp's abilities as a pilot on the Supermarine test pilot's team...*sigh* such might have beens.

[TomcatViP]

Do you mean like he could hve designed the E-model wing right on the drawing board ?

[Crumpp]

NzTyphoon,

The longitudinal stability and control characteristics of the early mark Spitfires is very well documented. It is used as an example in many college and university programs.

It is not some emotional based issue or even obscure if you understand stability and control. No amount of fan based wishing will change it. It is what it is and anybody who went to school for it can look at the measurements to tell exactly how the aircraft will behave.

Yes, it is quite obvious you don't understand it. Just as you did not understand percentage MAC, concocting a pointy tin foil hat theory and arguing for pages and pages about a non-dimensional proportion.

It is not my fault you don't care to learn about it.

[robtek]

Bad loosers always switch to attack the person or the persons reputation instead staying with the facts.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by robtek

Bad loosers always switch to attack the person or the persons reputation instead staying with the facts.

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Now, Holtzuage....

I would love to have this conversation with you. Should be a wonderful and refreshing change given your claims to be an engineer.

Originally Posted by Crumpp

NzTyphoon,

The longitudinal stability and control characteristics of the early mark Spitfires is very well documented. It is used as an example in many college and university programs.

Yet another unsubstantiated claim; if the Spitfire's longitudinal and stability characteristics are the subject of so many college and university programs then some documented evidence from such programs would be absolutely ideal for a proposed bugtracker report. Examples and documented evidence of such college and university programs please

[Crumpp]

http://www.cambridge.org/aus/series/....asp?code=CAES

About the third book down, NzTyphoon, is the one quoted.

[14] Airplane Stability and Control

A History of the Technologies that Made Aviation Possible
2nd Edition
Malcolm J. Abzug, E. Eugene Larrabee
Hardback | Published December 2002
Available, despatch within 3-4 weeks | AUD$187.95 | Add to basket

[Glider]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

NzTyphoon,

The longitudinal stability and control characteristics of the early mark Spitfires is very well documented. It is used as an example in many college and university programs.

I don't suppose you could say which college and university programmes could you?

[Crumpp]

My Alma Mater.....Go Eagles!!!!

You know we have a great football team?

Cambridge
Naval Academy
USAF Academy
MIT
GA Tech

[Crumpp]

which can also be found (minus some pages) on googlebooks.

Read it. You might learn something.