The 'Great Debate' - Spitfire vs BF109

[Glider]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

What theory??

You mean the measured results? The Operating Note warnings? The Test Pilot confirmation?

Still waiting for the test pilot confirmation

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Glider

Still waiting for the test pilot confirmation

Except Jeffrey Quill and Alex Henshaw, who don't count because they did not have Crumpp's vast experience in aerodynamics and engineering.

[Glider]

Originally Posted by NZtyphoon

Except Jeffrey Quill and Alex Henshaw, who don't count because they did not have Crumpp's vast experience in aerodynamics and engineering.

Don't forget Molders, Galland and the German test establishment. After all JQ and AH might be seen as biased

Crumpp
I believe the ball as they say is firmly in your court.

[Crumpp]

I believe the ball as they say is firmly in your court.

Not really...

The game has been over for quite a while. You and some others continue to play on because you do not realize it as you do not understand the information presented.

You don't really want to understand and I am not going to force you either.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Not really...

The game has been over for quite a while. You and some others continue to play on because you do not realize it as you do not understand the information presented.

You don't really want to understand and I am not going to force you either.

Ah yes, Crumpp's vast experience in aerodynamics and engineering - I guess it must be so frustrating being the only person who knows all there is to know about these subjects, while the rest of the world is made up of ignoramus'. What a shame that Reginald Mitchell did not have the benefit of Crumpp's vast capabilities - the Spitfire would have been a much better aircraft. And Jeffrey Quill could have done with Crumpp's abilities as a pilot on the Supermarine test pilot's team...*sigh* such might have beens.

[TomcatViP]

Do you mean like he could hve designed the E-model wing right on the drawing board ?

[Crumpp]

NzTyphoon,

The longitudinal stability and control characteristics of the early mark Spitfires is very well documented. It is used as an example in many college and university programs.

It is not some emotional based issue or even obscure if you understand stability and control. No amount of fan based wishing will change it. It is what it is and anybody who went to school for it can look at the measurements to tell exactly how the aircraft will behave.

Yes, it is quite obvious you don't understand it. Just as you did not understand percentage MAC, concocting a pointy tin foil hat theory and arguing for pages and pages about a non-dimensional proportion.

It is not my fault you don't care to learn about it.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Glider

Still waiting for the test pilot confirmation

We are still waiting on the Stability and Control characteristics of the Bf109.