Friday Official Update, July 27, 2012

[Force10]

It still doesn't explain why all the after screens have an average fps that is the same or actually lower. Degug mode was used for both tests so that kinda says that your avg fps will be the same or lower but with lower quality textures?

[Feathered_IV]

I'm somewhat hopeful here. My FPS have been frozen at 27 no matter what graphical combinations I choose, both low and high. "Five minutes" of testing does not seem very much, but if I can get just a little bit of en extra boost then the game might be playable for me at long last.

[pencon]

Next friday then ... or the one after that ..I'll believe Monday when I see it .

[Liz Lemon]

Originally Posted by adonys

lol.. don't tell that to anyone else.. they might lough at you

If people with no experience in game development want to laugh then let them.

But whenever you hear a developer talk about "optimizing" a game they mean not just cleaning up the code, but finding hackish solutions to decrease rendering time. Most of the time these solutions result in less accuracy but hopefully little visible difference.

Originally Posted by Force10

Have you ever played a track? Haven't you noticed how the black death track switches camera angles and views around and they are built into the track? I don't think it's possible to get to the options menu while a track is paused. The shots are not exactly the same time....it's as if he was watching the numbers and pressed capture at approx the same time...hence why their different.

But the images are identical with regards to angle and timing. If you don't believe me then just open up two of them in separate tabs and switch back and forth.

And its from a dev build - we don't know if they can change settings while playing a track back or not (or even if this was a track being played back)

[adonys]

Originally Posted by Liz Lemon

If people with no experience in game development want to laugh then let them.

But whenever you hear a developer talk about "optimizing" a game they mean not just cleaning up the code, but finding hackish solutions to decrease rendering time. Most of the time these solutions result in less accuracy but hopefully little visible difference.



But the images are identical with regards to angle and timing. If you don't believe me then just open up two of them in separate tabs and switch back and forth.

And its from a dev build - we don't know if they can change settings while playing a track back or not (or even if this was a track being played back)

I AM a game developer back from 2002. that means 10 years of doing it, mate. and optimization is NEVER the same with cutting-off features/effects in order to gain FPS.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

But you dont know if they sped up or slowed down the track which will also affect the average... either way, it just feels like you are looking at things to nit pick...wait till the patch and if its no better then you can bitch till you are blue in the face...

I'm not looking for things to bitch at....if they show us screenies with less average fps and lesser quality textures...I guess that makes you happy? I guess we will see when the patch comes out. Probably would have been wise to leave the framerate counter off in this case if they knew people would see the lower numbers.

[kristorf]

Afraid to say I am greatly underwhelmed, again

Lesser quality equals a nearly playable frame rate, pathetic really especially as lots of people spent hard earned money upgrading to what where (only a short time ago) top end PC's
as the old 'recommended' specs proved massively under stated and they/we still can't get a decent FPS unless we spend hundreds more £/$'s on yet more hardware.

And still no word on making the Channel Map (the centre peice of this game) usable in coop mode, another huge let down.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Force10

~ Probably would have been wise to leave the framerate counter off in this case if they knew people would see the lower numbers.

only for the whinge then to be "they're not showing the frame rate... what are they trying to hide?"

absolutely pathetic

[klem]

You can please all of the people some of the time.
You can please some of the people all of the time.
There are some people on the banana forum you can never please. At all. Ever.

BlackSix has told us they have made some improvements. He tried to demonstrate that with a few screenshots we now know were made under very specific circumstances which are unlikely to apply to most of the 100+ different PC specs out there never mind the widly differing game setings. Perhaps he should just have stuck to the words to avoid all the speculative crossfire.

So why not wait until you have the patch on your PC and have tested it before getting out of your prams to complain about it. Don't worry, I'll be the first to complain if I don't like it. When I've seen it.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by klem

You can please all of the people some of the time.
You can please some of the people all of the time.
There are some people on the banana forum you can never please. At all. Ever.

BlackSix has told us they have made some improvements. He tried to demonstrate that with a few screenshots we now know were made under very specific circumstances which are unlikely to apply to most of the 100+ different PC specs out there never mind the widly differing game setings. Perhaps he should just have stuck to the words to avoid all the speculative crossfire.

So why not wait until you have the patch on your PC and have tested it before getting out of your prams to complain about it. Don't worry, I'll be the first to complain if I don't like it. When I've seen it.

+1 Its time they really got the ban hammer out, these guys are not going to stop and its ruining the community!