top secret ancient tech the COUNTER solar point to obtain longitude

[pstyle]

Originally Posted by raaaid

and what about if you spin th clock in the same axes than the needles 1 revolution?
then there will be a offset in the needels of 2 revolutions

Umm, relative to a stationary point outside the clock, the number of passes of the hand will be different to the number of times the hands pass a point ON the clock... Everyone know's this.

For example follow the red hand in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZLyN...eature=related

Relative to the markings on the clock, the hand moves.
Relative to the wall, the read hand is stationary.

This is NOT a big deal. There is no conspiracy. There is no secret knowledge...just some pretty basic geometry.

[raaaid]

oh thanks a lot this is the easiest method to obtain longitude:

make a gruesome clock that can be even moved arbitrarily by hand with two exact COUNTEROTATING NEEDLES

you align it west east and count how many times each needle crosses the sun(thanks a lot ; thats the xterior reference point)

after a whole travel around the earth one needel will have crossed the sun one more and the other one less however the beat of the clock

i bet this is how the ancients conquered the pacific islands

edit:

imagine an ancient hawaian obtaining longitude:

the magic wheel in which two needles are countergeared

he is instructed to spin them 100 times per day as he travels

he knows that if he is still since one is following the sun and the other has opposite sense each day he will count one more of one than the other crossing the sun, so each day he adds one to one and substarcts one to the other

but if he travels 80 sunsets around the earth he will count 8001 of one needel crossing the sun while 7999 of the counterneedle crossing the sun while if he had not moved in 80 days would have counted 8000 of both exactly

[Sternjaeger II]

just please stop. PLEASE, I BEG YOU, STOP!!

Why you have no respect for other people's feelings??

[raaaid]

oh but i stopped my crazy stuff due to uther "suggestion"

come on youre pilot dont you love star navigation and the trill of the longitude feat?

dont you think according history proabably ancinet mastered longitude?

[Sternjaeger II]

I do, but you're not talking about that. In fact, you don't talk about anything. You just throw nonsense and conveniently hop from one topic to another like a crazy bee, because you're a bit like that and we all have to love you for how unique you are..

I still believe that the internet is not a safe place for you and your mental health, and your constant rambling nonsense is evidence of that. Anybody else would have understood by now, either you're crazy (which admittedly you aren't), or you're a troll (which admittedly you are).

There's no room for trolling on forums, you do the maths..

And mind you, I don't want you to be banned, I want you to understand.

[raaaid]

well ill stop the crazy ramblings, iove already done, notice my other thread was an artistic consideration in which was the FICTION most beaustifull sky

but this is just maths and its pretty much accepted the ancients had a way to obtain longitude though we dont know how

i their method is based in a virtual counter rotating star and a normal rotating one

if you remain in greenwhich there will be a difference of two revolutions than if you travel around the earth

i would post this in an science forum but i get banned from all, for example i was permabanned from the main physics forums in the net for not accepting the calssical explanation for the boomerang in their own words

creativity and science dont go hand by hand nowadays

[Wolf_Rider]

yeah... they don't like freethinkers, eh