Stability and Control characteristics of the Early Mark Spitfires

[TomcatViP]

"Normally" does not means that the Spit will recover by itself but that you have to apply normal actions to get out of the spin (note tht there are some planes that recover by them-self).

Your reading is little biased when the line you extracts are only a couple of lines after the one saying that the spin was forbidden.

Limited to 1/2 turn in the 47 means that after half a turn you shld initiate actions to stop the spin and recover. It does not means that you 'd die once the plane past that point. In that case, if the odds are high enough, the Spin IS FORBIDDEN.

Stable spin situation have often a link with an aft CG location. It does not means that you'd die each time you'll get in a spin but more that the time to recover would be too great to be considered a safe practice during training or in a combat situation or might damage the structure.

Anyway, there is nothing to read btw the lines or makes interpretations. Those pilot's notes are written by those that know all about flying a military plane in combat situation.

So, EO Glider, with all my respect, stick by the book or use your imagination to found new ways of pealing the potatoes...

Dismiss !



PS: I hope the joke passed the barrier language. Sgt Tomcat stand ready to eat his hat with some Bearnaise sauce in case it failed

[Glider]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

"Normally" does not means that the Spit will recover by itself but that you have to apply normal actions to get out of the spin (note tht there are some planes that recover by them-self).

Your reading is little biased when the line you extracts are only a couple of lines after the one saying that the spin was forbidden.

Limited to 1/2 turn in the 47 means that after half a turn you shld initiate actions to stop the spin and recover. It does not means that you 'd die once the plane past that point. In that case, if the odds are high enough, the Spin IS FORBIDDEN.

Stable spin situation have often a link with an aft CG location. It does not means that you'd die each time you'll get in a spin but more that the time to recover would be too great to be considered a safe practice during training or in a combat situation or might damage the structure.

Anyway, there is nothing to read btw the lines or makes interpretations. Those pilot's notes are written by those that know all about flying a military plane in combat situation.

So, EO Glider, with all my respect, stick by the book or use your imagination to found new ways of pealing the potatoes...

Dismiss !



PS: I hope the joke passed the barrier language. Sgt Tomcat stand ready to eat his hat with some Bearnaise sauce in case it failed

I actually totally agree with you 100%, there there, it can happen. In the same way the P47 wasn't dangerous to spin, neither was the Spitfire.

Its probably fair to say that the Pilots notes were on the side of caution

[CaptainDoggles]

We're losing sight of the "measurable and definable" aspect of things, here.

[taildraggernut]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

We're losing sight of the "measurable and definable" aspect of things, here.

Not really..

We have measured and defined that having 'adopted' stability and control standards or not, it seems everybody made aircraft with quirks, maybe it's because everybody was using British engineers theories for the basis?

We have defined the desireable qualities of the Spitfires maneuverability and controlability, and I might add i'd like to see more sensitivity in pitch with better rate of turn modelled in game.

We have defined the spinning characteristics of the Spitfire were not alarming and did not result in airframe failure.

We have defined that the RAF had a 'blanket' ban on intentionally spinning operational aircraft for some rather obvious reasons, nothing to do with imminent failure of the aircraft but more to do with preventing hot headed fighter pilots 'mucking about' with expensive and desperately needed combat aircraft, this has no bearing on the use of spinning in combat as an evasion technique, if your choice is get shot down and die or spin which would you chose?