Stability and Control characteristics of the Early Mark Spitfires

[Crumpp]

Yet it was the P-39 that had dangerous spin qualities

Both aircraft are placarded against intentional spinning due to dangerous spin characteristics.

Again off topic

[taildraggernut]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Both aircraft are placarded against intentional spinning due to dangerous spin characteristics.

Again off topic

Wrong, intentional spinning was discouraged regardless of aircraft type, in the pilots manuals it explains clearly that the Spitfire was benign in the spin, it's just the RAF saw no need for it intentionally, there are 'NO' documented negative spinning qualities of the Spitfire, the P-39 however it was game over in a spin.

it is obvious by now that any qualities associated with the Spitfire are unaceptable to Crumpp.

[Crumpp]

intentional spinning was discouraged

OFF TOPIC

[taildraggernut]

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Now read the rest of the notes and tell me where it says prohibited because it's a dangerous quality........it doesn't, it just tells you to use standard recovery techniques, not bail out because it's game over.

now go and read almost any other RAF pilots notes on any aircraft and you will see intentional spinning is 'prohibited' again not because the aircraft themselves are dangerous, it is simply because the maneuver is not regarded as necessary and the risks in spinning are universal.



p.s. how are the handling qualities of the Spitfire off topic?

[TomcatViP]

No. Again.

For example Basic pilot syllabus include spins. The plane used for this where not prohibited for spinning.

You hve also excellent pilot's note video on Youtube regarding P47, 38 etc.. You'll see that spin was not prohibited on those type. I am sure someone will point a similar (real ) vid for an RAF plane

[taildraggernut]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

No. Again.

For example Basic pilot syllabus include spins. The plane used for this where not prohibited for spinning.

You hve also excellent pilot's note video on Youtube regarding P47, 38 etc.. You'll see that spin was not prohibited on those type. I am sure someone will point a similar (real ) vid for an RAF plane

well, why spin the spitfire if they already got trained to do it in a tiger moth that doesn't loose 2,000 feet minimum? hence why they didn't like to spin their expensive new and oh so desparately needed Spitfires, what the Americans had as regulations is the Americans business......nothing to do with the Spitfire....back on topic please.

[robtek]

I think i know who is running out of straws now.

[Crumpp]

AP129 encourages spin training and has a whole chapter devoted to it. Aircraft are placarded against spinning because the specific design had dangerous characteristics.

End of story.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

well, why spin the spitfire if they already got trained to do it in a tiger moth that doesn't loose 2,000 feet minimum?

They also learned to spin in the Harvard. An aircraft known for its vicious stall characteristics, and which needed about 2-3000ft to recover, if memory serves.