ATAG Dedicated Server is up!

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by AbortedMan

My "misunderstanding" was a simple question about whether the server was in-house or company owned and whom was responsible for repairs, I believe it was you and 4-5 others that misunderstood.

I'm flabbergasted by your dickheaded attitude. I take pity on the next person that shows genuine interest in a community that you, Bliss, are involved in and tries to spark up discussion about improving online gameplay in a seemingly dying environment they wish to preserve. You convey a message of elitism from an outside-of-ATAG and non-mission perfection-making god's perspective with your recent posts and it's gross.

EDIT: I've mentioned countless times on forums and in-game how I'm grateful for ATAG's efforts, by the way. And I truly am. If this is the way a civil and intentionally constructive vocal interaction from the community that you host is going to be handled then this game truly is doomed.

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I find the fact that Blue Vulching RED and not the other way around happens 99% of the time, to be a defining failure in ANY mission made by ANY mission maker. And when someone brings up that point they are confronted with... DUH its realistic....... Well DUH no it isn't. The amount of flak that a 109 would face (and the Spit fire DOES face) in today's game. Should be INSANE. You shouldnt even think about going it alone into an enemy base. for fear of CERTAIN death, not "Oh maybe Ill get hit", or "OMG I cant beleive I get hit by flak". That was reality.

And Bliss, chill the F out man, Aborted is making points and has been pretty civil about the whole thing. You may not agree but Jesus man, calm down.


I hope that you can fix the missions, but just allowing the BS vulching, because you "didn't want to tell someone how to fly". Well that's kind of a crap cop out if you ask me. Neither team should want to get even close to the enemy base. And as it is now RED doesn't, for very real fear of not making it 2 miles. It should be the same for Blues. Then you aren't telling them how to fly, let them eat flak to their hearts content.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Hooves

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I find the fact that Blue Vulching RED and not the other way around happens 99% of the time, to be a defining failure in ANY mission made by ANY mission maker. And when someone brings up that point they are confronted with... DUH its realistic....... Well DUH no it isn't. The amount of flak that a 109 would face (and the Spit fire DOES face) in today's game. Should be INSANE. You shouldnt even think about going it alone into an enemy base. for fear of CERTAIN death, not "Oh maybe Ill get hit", or "OMG I cant beleive I get hit by flak". That was reality.

And Bliss, chill the F out man, Aborted is making points and has been pretty civil about the whole thing. You may not agree but Jesus man, calm down.


I hope that you can fix the missions, but just allowing the BS vulching, because you "didn't want to tell someone how to fly". Well that's kind of a crap cop out if you ask me. Neither team should want to get even close to the enemy base. And as it is now RED doesn't, for very real fear of not making it 2 miles. It should be the same for Blues. Then you aren't telling them how to fly, let them eat flak to their hearts content.

I have been vulched by reds plenty of times and if you had taken the time to fly a 109 over hawkinge you would realize your not going to last very long... BOFORS BOFORS BOFORS!

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Originally Posted by Hooves

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I find the fact that Blue Vulching RED and not the other way around happens 99% of the time, to be a defining failure in ANY mission made by ANY mission maker. And when someone brings up that point they are confronted with... DUH its realistic....... Well DUH no it isn't. The amount of flak that a 109 would face (and the Spit fire DOES face) in today's game. Should be INSANE. You shouldnt even think about going it alone into an enemy base. for fear of CERTAIN death, not "Oh maybe Ill get hit", or "OMG I cant beleive I get hit by flak". That was reality.

And Bliss, chill the F out man, Aborted is making points and has been pretty civil about the whole thing. You may not agree but Jesus man, calm down.


I hope that you can fix the missions, but just allowing the BS vulching, because you "didn't want to tell someone how to fly". Well that's kind of a crap cop out if you ask me. Neither team should want to get even close to the enemy base. And as it is now RED doesn't, for very real fear of not making it 2 miles. It should be the same for Blues. Then you aren't telling them how to fly, let them eat flak to their hearts content.

Hooves what the heck are you talking about, there has been multiple airfields including rear fields forever that can be used if you dont want instant action.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Colander

Moderators,
I think is would be better to lock the thread, at least for a couple of days while steam (not the one used on the game) is blown off.

From where i'm standing it looks like AbortedMan is trying to make some valid points but they are worded somewhat "clumsily", for lack of a better word, and that makes them sound like unfair criticism towards Bliss and the crew managing the server.

I don't want to close a highly active thread about a highly active MP server. What i can do is delete the posts where the arguments take place and leave it at that if the participants here agree.

I already suggested they try to contain themselves without moderator intervention. I really don't want this to escalate further because it puts me in the difficult position of having to apply infractions to people i fly with, talk to on TS and, where certain individuals are concerned, use a service they provide out of their own pockets and tons of their spare time. On the other hand, i can't slap infractions on some people and cut slack for others with a straight face, it would be unfair and compromise my impartiality. If i don't treat everyone the same, then i'm not doing my job right, i hope you all understand this.

So come on guys, please chill out, do it for me and don't put me between a rock and a hard place

[AbortedMan]

Originally Posted by ATAG_MajorBorris

Hooves what the heck are you talking about, there has been multiple airfields including rear fields forever that can be used if you dont want instant action.

Nevermind Hooves, he hasn't yet realized that he and I are simpletons and haven't the slightest understanding of what goes on with mission making.

It's not like I spend all day getting paid to comb over .xml code here in Redmond, WA at the Millennium-D Microsoft campus every week day 8am to 5pm or anything. All that mission creating jargon is too complicated for my common forum-going, video game playing, aircraft simulator-keyboard mashing brain.

I are go back to work now, durrrr.