4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[ElAurens]

Have to agree with Macwan here, the Hawk 81s and 75s in game are good 3D representations of those aircraft.

And thanks to you sir for your work on the new Hawks and all your skins over the years.

[FlyingShark]

Indeed, I agree too, I'dd rather they focus on correcting the wings of the others and creating the new ones, I hope they'll also get opening canopies.

~S~

[SPITACE]

the p40s are ok in the sim its the bf109s that need new cockpits also the gun buttons on the spitfires need a repaint/redone

[maxim42]

BF-109 definitely needs new cockpit. BF-109 is one of the most important plane in IL-2 1946 with a lot of its versions. Compare it to the BF-110 where the cockpit is nice and with good quality. The BF-109's doesn't have many animations. The sound of this plane should also be changed because the actual one is weak (especially inside). Also I noticed a bug with BI-6 plane where the wing engines work even without fuel.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by SPITACE

the p40s are ok in the sim its the bf109s that need new cockpits also the gun buttons on the spitfires need a repaint/redone

The P-40 cockpit isn't too bad... yes the Bf109 one is pretty old and fairly awful in comparison. Now on the exterior the Bf109 was lovingly crafted while the P-40E/M has a number of extremely obvious errors which it'll be great to have corrected.

You know the Bf109 cockpit isn't too bad considering it's one of the oldest in the game along with the IL-2, Yak, and MiG-3.

[Lagarto]

By the way, wasn't Kittyhawk MK IA (P-40E) fitted with underwing bomb racks? The current model doesn't have them.

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by Lagarto

By the way, wasn't Kittyhawk MK IA (P-40E) fitted with underwing bomb racks? The current model doesn't have them.

Many wartime pictures suggest that the use of small size bombs under the wings was widespread from the P-40F onwards. On the other hand, some references suggest that small bombs were used also by P-40s in the Phlippines campaign (1941) but it's not clear what version carried them as there were both P40B/Cs and P-40Es operating together (source: Bloody Shambles vol. 1 by C. Shores)

[Fighterace]

Will the new P-40 models have an improved DM?

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

Many wartime pictures suggest that the use of small size bombs under the wings was widespread from the P-40F onwards. On the other hand, some references suggest that small bombs were used also by P-40s in the Phlippines campaign (1941) but it's not clear what version carried them as there were both P40B/Cs and P-40Es operating together (source: Bloody Shambles vol. 1 by C. Shores)

14th. Air Force P 40s were often armed with the bazooka type rocket launcher, as seen on the P47 in IL2.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by IceFire

The P-40 cockpit isn't too bad... yes the Bf109 one is pretty old and fairly awful in comparison.

I tend to disagree. While Bf109 do have awful texturing (old style), the 3D shape of the P-40 cockpits, especially the canopy frames, is really wrong.
So in summary, P-40 cockpits are wrong, while Bf109 ones are only ugly.