after 12 years i finally passed physics, im almost an engineer :)

[swiss]

Originally Posted by raaaid

how can i be a drain for society if my only consumptions is:

food

meds

10 euro a day for ziggies beer and coffe

are you joking

maybe people like me should be deprived of food is that what you mean?

So we have

food: €15

Zigs, coffee & beer: €10


meds: how much, who pays for them?

rent/power/phone: ?

Social security/insurances: ?

edit:

I see - hard to believe you're happy with the situation.
But, given you're funded "internally" it's ok.

Got very similar background, took different path somewhere tho'.

[raaaid]

yeah well im starting contributing society and exchanging the 4 hours of study for four hours of teching at 12 euro per hour

theres no much people who have a diploma in letters and another in science

i know latin and fluid mechanics

besides my plan is open a non totally legal academy and teach kids of few resources in groups for low prizes

youre confused

i know a guy who gets 1000 euro from the state cause he is crazy, i know other who gets 300 but lives with his family

they are not drain, they should not be deprived from oxigene

a drain fro society are those who steal

did you know the last big thieve jailed in sapin was roldan 20 years ago

jaume matas a minister was sentenced to five years in jail but he didnt enter

those are the parasits

[He111]

Whos he kidding?? He's off to the only country left with well paid jobs - Australia where engineers can earn $150,000+

Just watch the movie "Red Dog" and you'll get an understanding of the conditions.

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[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by He111

Whos he kidding?? He's off to the only country left with well paid jobs - Australia where engineers can earn $150,000+

Just watch the movie "Red Dog" and you'll get an understanding of the conditions.

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Do remember that Red Dog was made with Mining Company finance as a public relations exercise. It's a great movie but there is a certain amount of corporate propaganda going on.

BTW ... raaid is talkingbaout becoming a ships engineer working in the engine room on a boat, not a professional engineer designing bridges, dams and machinery. They are two totally different things.

[Blakduk]

Well done raaaid- ignore the negative posts.

[He111]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Do remember that Red Dog was made with Mining Company finance as a public relations exercise. It's a great movie but there is a certain amount of corporate propaganda going on.

Spoken like a true socialist .. so which are you, public servant or retired ?

BTW ... raaid is talkingbaout becoming a ships engineer working in the engine room on a boat, not a professional engineer designing bridges, dams and machinery. They are two totally different things.

We'll take anyone .. I MEAN ANYONE!! (i'm not joking - Western Australia - Northen Territory - Queensland (not to be confused with darlinghurst in Sydney) - are all deperate for any form of engineering qualitications that can be transfered into the mining industry. A ships engineer can work on LNG ships .. with Aussie union wages .. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .. but it won't last forever ..

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[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by He111

Spoken like a true socialist .. so which are you, public servant or retired ?

The cattle industry actually

Two of my sisters are married to Miners. One works underground at Mount Isa and the other in open cut coal out of Townsville.

They really appreciate the money which is awesome for two guys who basically left school at year 10 and where previously a truck driver and a farm hand on cr@p wages. They do not however have a lot of respect for the mining companies or management.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by He111

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We'll take anyone .. I MEAN ANYONE!! (i'm not joking - Western Australia - Northen Territory - Queensland (not to be confused with darlinghurst in Sydney) - are all deperate for any form of engineering qualitications that can be transfered into the mining industry. A ships engineer can work on LNG ships .. with Aussie union wages .. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .. but it won't last forever ..
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Just checked, indeed $80k directly from university - here it's $75.

I know a few construction engineers, guess I should tell them...
Roo-country has pretty high rep in Switzerland.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by swiss

Just checked, indeed $80k directly from university - here it's $75.

I know a few construction engineers, guess I should tell them...
Roo-country has pretty high rep in Switzerland.

The engineering field is coming back in the US as well. Rates plummeted for new hires and flattened out for those that managed to stay billable during the slump but they are coming back now. I even got a small raise a few months ago and now I'm doing 50 hour weeks again so life is good. That Ferrari might not be as far out in the future as I thought!

New engineering graduates are coming in at decent rates although not as good as it was a couple of years before the slump. Back then a new grad process engineer could start at $37 and hour (USD)!

--Outlaw.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

BTW ... raaid is talkingbaout becoming a ships engineer working in the engine room on a boat, not a professional engineer designing bridges, dams and machinery. They are two totally different things.

The term engineer is used too much.

Raid whats the title of the qualification? Well done by the way.