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Old 07-10-2012, 07:41 PM
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Can you make a list of all the other support we have had where we have seen results?
No need to make a list in that it allready exists, i.e.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26532

And from that list we have recived support in the form of 14 patches, i.e.

[PCH] (2012.05.05) v1.06.17582 BETA PATCH - May 05, 2012
[PCH] (2011.10.17) v1.05.15950 Release is now live! What to expect next
[PCH] (2011.10.06) v1.04.15866 core fix
[PCH] (2011.10.05) v1.04.15866 Beta
[PCH] (2011.09.06) v1.03.15527 Beta
[PCH] (2011.06.24) v1.02.14821 Release
[PCH] (2011.06.21) v1.01.14762 Beta
[PCH] (2011.05.18.) v1.01.14550 Retail
[PCH] (2011.05.04) v1.01.14413 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.27) v1.00.14305 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.15) v1.00.14072 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.08.) v1.00.13954 Release
[PCH] (2011.04.07) v1.00.13915 Beta

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After all talk is cheap.
Agreed

Which is why I allways make sure I can back up my claims (see above)

Now.. Let me guess.. You and yours are going to claim that 14 patches over a years time is NOT considered SUPPORT
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:54 PM
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No need to make a list in that it allready exists, i.e.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26532

And from that list we have recived support in the form of 14 patches, i.e.

[PCH] (2012.05.05) v1.06.17582 BETA PATCH - May 05, 2012
[PCH] (2011.10.17) v1.05.15950 Release is now live! What to expect next
[PCH] (2011.10.06) v1.04.15866 core fix
[PCH] (2011.10.05) v1.04.15866 Beta
[PCH] (2011.09.06) v1.03.15527 Beta
[PCH] (2011.06.24) v1.02.14821 Release
[PCH] (2011.06.21) v1.01.14762 Beta
[PCH] (2011.05.18.) v1.01.14550 Retail
[PCH] (2011.05.04) v1.01.14413 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.27) v1.00.14305 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.15) v1.00.14072 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.08.) v1.00.13954 Release
[PCH] (2011.04.07) v1.00.13915 Beta


Agreed

Which is why I allways make sure I can back up my claims (see above)

Now.. Let me guess.. You and yours are going to claim that 14 patches over a years time is NOT considered SUPPORT
So three patches released and the rest are beta's leading up to the patch releases. You call that excellent support? Because I don't when you consider most beta games are free to play until they correct the faults.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:15 PM
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So three patches released and the rest are beta's leading up to the patch releases. You call that excellent support? Because I don't when you consider most beta games are free to play until they correct the faults.
should they be releasing patches daily? and a beta patch does not make a game beta, even worst case the game is still an RC but not a beta.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:25 PM
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should they be releasing patches daily? and a beta patch does not make a game beta, even worst case the game is still an RC but not a beta.
No not daily, but I do wish they could release a patch that doesn't screw something else up everytime. I am getting where I am thinking what will go wrong this time when they release this patch. They then have to spend more time fixing the things they have broken and beta testing them, all this resulting in time and more time.

Btw - If it has a beta patch applied to it it's a beta in my eyes. An official patch is what makes it no longer a beta. At present it's back in beta stage because it's found to have faults still.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:28 PM
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Correct.. 14+ patches in the last year
No, the beta patches aren't separate patches. They're just early versions of the actual patches.

Stop being disingenuous.
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Originally I posted on page 1......that is still the question

Currently I see a lot of in-fighting but this makes me wonder whether the lack of information really has made the community turn on itself?

Even a monthly update like the one I linked to a RoF would surely give users a chance to understand what to expect and what to look forward to?

Currently it seems that in-fighting occurs because no-one is sure just what is happening or going to happen, other than speculation?

If the speculation was changed to actual facts by the 1C team...maybe the clarity of position and direction would help those on either side of the fence to at-least sit on it together?

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14 patches that haven't really fixed much. It's the "tree falls in the forest" deal. If 14 patches are released, but they don't really fix the glaring problems, is that considered excellent support?
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Did I say no real work went into them? Did I say that they were the same patches?

Please quote where I did. Otherwise, stop misrepresenting what I say.
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No, the beta patches aren't separate patches. They're just early versions of the actual patches.

Stop being disingenuous.
if they aren't separate patches but just early versions of the actual patches then you are saying they are the same patches...you know like they made a beta and a couple of weeks later gave it a new version number and called it a release.
I'm not misrepresenting anything, you are desparately trying to tell us the devs have done 'nothing' in the way of trying to fix this yet here we are reminding you that on 14 separate occasions a different patch be it a beta or release that had to be coded each time.
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For clarification purposes ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwar...ase_life_cycle
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So three patches released and the rest are beta's leading up to the patch releases.
Correct.. 14+ patches in the last year

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You call that excellent support?
Excellent.. Maybe?

One thing for sure is that 14+ patches in a year does NOT qualify as NO SUPPORT which is what you and yours would have us belive

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Because I don't when you consider most beta games are free to play until they correct the faults.
Shocking..

You and yours DONT consider 14+ patches in the last year as support..

Who would have ever guessed that?
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