Is the main issue with 1C the lack of communication? Feedback = Consideration for us?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by furbs

So your that sure that the developers wont say "The last patch that fixes everything for COD is released with BOM"?

Il wager you they do, name your price.

I have no doubt that you will find new features in BoM that you think should have been included in CoD.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I have no doubt that you will find new features in BoM that you think should have been included in CoD.

Not quite what i said is it.

So fancy a bet?

Im saying the developers will say "FIXES for COD will come with the release of BOM"

Hence i will not be buying until i see some reviews first.

[Fearless_1]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Here is a perfect example of why the whiners are and never will be happy..

Would you be going out of your way to say/do anything in this forum?

It is their forum. I find it hilarious that you keep meantioning all the support we are getting when we haven't seen anything but a beta in about a year.

Quit calling other people's opinions silly because the only thing sillier is the amount of time you spent defending against any criticism that have been long over due for 1C.

I have my opinions because I believe in a fair deal, even when it has to do with flight simming. When I see a game in this condition that was released after taking half as long as Duke Nukem and advertised as "ready" then I believe that I have found an unfair deal. If you like to dilute your brain with open ended "commitments" like have received on these forums then I believe you have chosen to ignore the obvious and swallow the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

So what that I disagree with you? I never cared until you took it on yourself to get all gestapo up in here.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I think he said they have only released a beta patch in about a year and he's right about that. Can you make a list of all the other support we have had where we have seen results? After all talk is cheap.

appart from the first few patches before the re-write of the graphics engine thats true, the patch we have now is a beta of the new graphics engine, so not only were we getting patches but they actually decided to do a drastic re-write of the code to try and fix things for us......yep abismal support.....

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

appart from the first few patches before the re-write of the graphics engine thats true, the patch we have now is a beta of the new graphics engine, so not only were we getting patches but they actually decided to do a drastic re-write of the code to try and fix things for us......yep abismal support.....

That's your opinion Bongo, but many of us feel the rewrite was only done for the sake of the next game. Do you really believe they would have done this rewrite if there wasn't a new game on the cards? COD is still in a bad state and we have actually paid to be beta testers for this and the next game lol. This should have been put out free if they wanted us to beta test it.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

That's your opinion Bongo, but many of us feel the rewrite was only done for the sake of the next game. Do you really believe they would have done this rewrite if there wasn't a new game on the cards? COD is still in a bad state and we have actually paid to be beta testers lol.

That's your oppinion Noodles.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

but many of us feel the rewrite was only done for the sake of the next game.

Of course it was done for the sake of the next game. The part that makes no sense at all is why you seem to think that is bad.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Can you make a list of all the other support we have had where we have seen results?

No need to make a list in that it allready exists, i.e.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26532

And from that list we have recived support in the form of 14 patches, i.e.

[PCH] (2012.05.05) v1.06.17582 BETA PATCH - May 05, 2012
[PCH] (2011.10.17) v1.05.15950 Release is now live! What to expect next
[PCH] (2011.10.06) v1.04.15866 core fix
[PCH] (2011.10.05) v1.04.15866 Beta
[PCH] (2011.09.06) v1.03.15527 Beta
[PCH] (2011.06.24) v1.02.14821 Release
[PCH] (2011.06.21) v1.01.14762 Beta
[PCH] (2011.05.18.) v1.01.14550 Retail
[PCH] (2011.05.04) v1.01.14413 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.27) v1.00.14305 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.15) v1.00.14072 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.08.) v1.00.13954 Release
[PCH] (2011.04.07) v1.00.13915 Beta

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

After all talk is cheap.

Agreed

Which is why I allways make sure I can back up my claims (see above)

Now.. Let me guess.. You and yours are going to claim that 14 patches over a years time is NOT considered SUPPORT

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

No need to make a list in that it allready exists, i.e.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26532

And from that list we have recived support in the form of 14 patches, i.e.

[PCH] (2012.05.05) v1.06.17582 BETA PATCH - May 05, 2012
[PCH] (2011.10.17) v1.05.15950 Release is now live! What to expect next
[PCH] (2011.10.06) v1.04.15866 core fix
[PCH] (2011.10.05) v1.04.15866 Beta
[PCH] (2011.09.06) v1.03.15527 Beta
[PCH] (2011.06.24) v1.02.14821 Release
[PCH] (2011.06.21) v1.01.14762 Beta
[PCH] (2011.05.18.) v1.01.14550 Retail
[PCH] (2011.05.04) v1.01.14413 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.27) v1.00.14305 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.15) v1.00.14072 Beta
[PCH] (2011.04.08.) v1.00.13954 Release
[PCH] (2011.04.07) v1.00.13915 Beta


Agreed

Which is why I allways make sure I can back up my claims (see above)

Now.. Let me guess.. You and yours are going to claim that 14 patches over a years time is NOT considered SUPPORT

So three patches released and the rest are beta's leading up to the patch releases. You call that excellent support? Because I don't when you consider most beta games are free to play until they correct the faults.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

So three patches released and the rest are beta's leading up to the patch releases. You call that excellent support? Because I don't when you consider most beta games are free to play until they correct the faults.

should they be releasing patches daily? and a beta patch does not make a game beta, even worst case the game is still an RC but not a beta.