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Old 07-09-2012, 02:11 PM
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What you really mean to say is - Britain is bad because they created concentration camps. Look how nasty they are. I quite agree, they're nasty and evil and the lesson hasn't been learned by lots of other nations. No doubt you're currently saving up to buy the aborigines a bit of desert as recompense for your ancestor's actions.

I'm struggling to see what that has to do with Avro's original post or follow up comment though.

Pure troll as I see it, that or an inveterate (or should that be invertebrate) Brit hater.

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No doubt you're currently saving up to buy the aborigines a bit of desert as recompense for your ancestor's actions.

Nah, he's probably too busy denying Asylum seekers basic human rights and inflicting terrible abuse to people who have committed no crime whatsoever in Oz 'concentration camps' like the modern day 'Christmas Island', for example!

I think the 'Moral relativists' here have to re-examine their Morality, and think again. As to the "The British created Concentration camps" baloney.......Lets put that record straight. A concentration camp is by definition a concentration of persons.....usually by forcible internment. What the tents in South Africa were very much not however, were part of a very deliberate and calculated, perverse, wicked mission to exterminate, permanently, with no remorse vast swathes of the Human race who did not conform to some twisted "Ideal".


Ridiculous. As to Farber, Adonys etc......Jesus Christ. Some people are so apocalyptically effin stupid it is untrue. Since when (in A-holes case) was borderline Holocaust Denial deemed acceptable on this forum? Are you kidding me? In farbers case in particular, I am personally ashamed to call delusional imbeciles like this my fellow countrymen. They are as far as I am concerned* p*ssing on the graves of those who nobly kept them free, so that they can continue their preposterous, ludicrous rants. I bet they are so proud to be British! Aye, sure sounds* like it. Anyone who espouses or condones this outrageous twaddle is no true Briton, nor friend of mine. Out of here before I lose me temper. Again.

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Old 07-09-2012, 03:08 PM
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I think the 'Moral relativists' here have to re-examine their Morality, and think again. As to the "The British created Concentration camps" baloney.......Lets put that record straight. A concentration camp is by definition a concentration of persons.....usually by forcible internment. What the tents in South Africa were very much not however, were part of a very deliberate and calculated, perverse, wicked mission to exterminate, permanently, with no remorse vast swathes of the Human race who did not conform to some twisted "Ideal".

http://grapeinvestor.com/BoerWar/camps.html

The English term "concentration camp" was first used to describe camps operated by the British in South Africa during this conflict.
The camps had originally been set up by the British Army as "refugee camps" to provide refuge for civilian families who had been forced to abandon their homes for one or other reason related to the war. However, when Kitchener succeeded Roberts as commander-in-chief in South Africa in 29 November 1900, the British Army introduced new tactics in an attempt to break the guerrilla campaign and the influx of civilians grew dramatically as a result. Kitchener initiated plans to "flush out guerrillas in a series of systematic drives, organized like a sporting shoot, with success defined in a weekly 'bag' of killed, captured and wounded, and to sweep the country bare of everything that could give sustenance to the guerrillas, including women and children.... It was the clearance of civilians - uprooting a whole nation - that would come to dominate the last phase of the war."

As Boer farms were destroyed by the British under their "Scorched Earth" policy - including the systematic destruction of crops and slaughtering of livestock, the burning down of homesteads and farms, and the poisoning of wells and salting of fields - to prevent the Boers from resupplying from a home base many tens of thousands of women and children were forcibly moved into the concentration camps. This was not the first appearance of internment camps. The Spanish had used internment in the Ten Years' War that later led to the Spanish-American War, and the United States had used them to devastate guerrilla forces during the Philippine-American War. But the Boer War concentration camp system was the first time that a whole nation had been systematically targeted, and the first in which some whole regions had been depopulated.

Eventually, there were a total of 45 tented camps built for Boer internees and 64 for black Africans. Of the 28,000 Boer men captured as prisoners of war, 25,630 were sent overseas. The vast majority of Boers remaining in the local camps were women and children. Over 26,000 women and children were to perish in these concentration camps.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:41 PM
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The Germans used concentration camps in German South-West Africa during the Herero genocide between 1904 and 1907. The camp at Shark Island, Namibia was of the nature of an extermination camp, arguably the world's first.

The Herero and Namaqua Genocide is considered to have been the first genocide of the 20th century. It took place between 1904 and 1907 in German South-West Africa (modern day Namibia), during the scramble for Africa.

On January 12, 1904, the Herero people, led by Samuel Maharero, rebelled against German colonial rule. In August, German general Lothar von Trotha defeated the Herero in the Battle of Waterberg and drove them into the desert of Omaheke, where most of them died of thirst. In October, the Nama people also rebelled against the Germans only to suffer a similar fate.

In total, from 24,000 up to 100,000 Herero and 10,000 Nama died. The genocide was characterized by widespread death by starvation and thirst because the Herero who fled the violence were prevented from returning from the Namib Desert. Some sources also claim that the German colonial army systematically poisoned desert wells.

In 1985, the United Nations' Whitaker Report classified the aftermath as an attempt to exterminate the Herero and Nama peoples of South-West Africa, and therefore one of the earliest attempts at genocide in the 20th century. The German government recognized and apologized for the events in 2004, but has ruled out financial compensation for the victims' descendants.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:11 PM
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Thank you Al. I have raised these points before. Other "Inconvenient subjects" for the apologists are the German Policy of "Total War", and the Zeppelin and Gotha TERROR RAIDS of WWI, burning hundreds of British Women and Children alive with incendiary devices. Terribly rum bunch, these Huns.

Little wonder, then, that the British Public have little to no sympathy for what ensued.

I stand with Harris (an RFC Fighter Ace, one whom can hardly be accused of cowardice). Harris was particularly moved as he surveyed the devastation wrought by Gotha and Zeppelin Bombers on the City of London in 1917-18. They bombed people indiscriminately, including my own Tyneside, Sunderland, and even Edinburgh and Glasgow too.

Do we see a "pattern" emerging, here....or is it just me?

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind" .

You kill 1000 of our Women and Children, we will do our utmost to kill 10 thousand of our Enemy. All is fair, in love and War. Hard lines.

No sympathy. None. Zilch. Nada. Cry me a river.

End of story.

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:26 PM
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Thank you Al. I have raised these points before. Other "Inconvenient subjects" for the apologists are the German Policy of "Total War", and the Zeppelin and Gotha TERROR RAIDS of WWI, burning hundreds of British Women and Children alive with incendiary devices. Terribly rum bunch, these Huns.

Little wonder, then, that the British Public have little to no sympathy for what ensued.

I stand with Harris (an RFC Fighter Ace, one whom can hardly be accused of cowardice). Harris was particularly moved as he surveyed the devastation wrought by Gotha and Zeppelin Bombers on the City of London in 1917-18. They bombed people indiscriminately, including my own Tyneside, Sunderland, and even Edinburgh and Glasgow too.

Do we see a "pattern" emerging, here....or is it just me?

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind" .

You kill 1000 of our Women and Children, we will do our utmost to kill 10 thousand of our Enemy. All is fair, in love and War. Hard lines.

No sympathy. None. Zilch. Nada. Cry me a river.

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The difference is, Germany errects memorials for the victims, you guys errect memorials for the perpetrators. And this post of yours is the perfect example of the mindset behind that.
Better hope other ppl have moved on, as that quote of yours about "sowing the wind" fits to quite a few situations of a certain wholier then you country.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:40 PM
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I refuse to cuddle with WW2 WAAF hottie. Why?

Cause dem gals just too damn old but if I can hook up with current WAAF hottie I mos def would.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:17 PM
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The difference is, Germany errects memorials for the victims, you guys errect memorials for the perpetrators.

LMAO...."the perpetrators"..........In Denial.....Much?

Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth.......


Never mind.

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The difference is, Germany errects memorials for the victims, you guys errect memorials for the perpetrators. And this post of yours is the perfect example of the mindset behind that.
Better hope other ppl have moved on, as that quote of yours about "sowing the wind" fits to quite a few situations of a certain wholier then you country.
LOL. Most countries erect memorials commemorating successes in war or battle. A lot of countries erect memorials for the memory of those that have died in battle. In the UK there are lots of memorials commerating the civilian dead though they're not so prevalent.

The most famous victim memorial is probably the Holocaust memorial in Berlin and there's a reason for it being there. Personally I don't think it should be there as it rubs the noses of German peoples in their country's less than pleasant history, and that can't be right. I do however believe there should be such a memorial somewhere.

Reap what you sow seems about right to me.

Hood

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reality check. none of the planes are german. everything in the game is russian. made by russian "programmers" that work for a russian software company. if you "kill" a pilot, he's russian and his name is luthier. if you "bomb" a town, it's ubisoft or steam headquarters somewhere in russia. if you meet up with a disconnect pilot online, his name is oleg. if you see a total newbie online, his name is bee-sex. if you see some white beeeaches, that's where the E3 russian babes hang out, with the game's beancounters and investors, drinking chivas regal all day long wondering where their $8 millions dollars went. so fly low and think of what could have been. i mean, you are an investor too! you paid for the game. probably also had to pay to upgrade your computer to make it "workable". now, do you want to get your monies worth out of it? or do you want the russians to steal it from you? or is "london, england (not european)" more important. he he. no euro cooties for you. lol. really, ever since invention of modern day transportation, its been worldwide socialist orgy-fest. the internet, making the party all the bigger. the lowest common denominator in play and can't be stopped. we all going down the toilet like clod. you know the song. "diarrhea...people think it's funny, but it's really hot and runny...etc.” that's the world now. turd soup. same as clod. yum, yum, can I have another? sure. hear’s some bom for you. tell me now you still feel guilty after getting pooped on.
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