109 elevator and aileron behaviour with 18301(bugtracker)

[ICU_DIE535]

I think the 109 is a lot better this patch 1.7 then the 1.6 patch. In the 1.6 patch I could never recover from a spin or flat spin because the rudder was useless. Now (1.7 patch) I can recover from a spin and also kick the rudder right or left to fire at Brits when they start their turns, or when they approach from head on and off to one side. Thing I notice now is the roll rate seems slower at high speeds (slower than before) and level acceleration seems to be slower.

I worry when people start complaining that the rudder is to sensitive or they think it's over done because we need this in the 109 to survive and to have a better chance of hitting a British fighter with bullets. If it's to rudder sensitive for you change it in your joystick settings.

[David198502]

you should read the post again mate..its not about the rudder at all but ELEVATOR AND AILERONS

oh and btw, i have no problem to survive against the brits, nothing to do with that, and as i already mentioned, i heard this same problem exists with the hurricane!

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by David198502

why to change something that was perfect and nobody complained off???
according to my squadmates on the RAF side, this problem also exists in the hurri.

Well, it might be closer to the actual FM. I don't know if it is, i'm just saying that if it is, then it's expected to have these changes despite the fact that we were used to it working differently in the past.

Originally Posted by recoilfx

Hmm... I guess I am against the majority here. I don't find 109 unstable. Rudder movement is less adverse compared to the last patch, but overall, the gun platform is still rock solid.

I also find it quite stable, especially at somewhat higher speeds.

I think it's just difficult to actually measure this stuff (so many variations of controllers, sensitivity settings, etc among us all) so i can't really have an opinion either way apart from how it "feels" to me, which of course is a purely subjective thing. That's why i can't classify this as a bug, which is an objective thing.