RAF Bomber crews remembered. Better late than never.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I think the main point Stern was trying to emphasise is the British campaign was immoral and murderous, the RAF wasn't going after strategic targets but more after women and children and babies and family pets.

Yep, it's the deliberate decision to attack civilian targets,not hitting them as collateral damage from pinpoint bombing that makes quite the difference.. but again it was done by the Americans as well. I find it somehow grotesque and really difficult to justify, condemning the Nazis for war crimes against civilians and then doing exactly the same thing..

And as usual the eloquence of Bewolf is spotless: it should be looked as a memorial about the casualties of that foolish campaign,not a "feel good" big monument.

[PeterPanPan]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

... I find it somehow grotesque and really difficult to justify, condemning the Nazis for war crimes against civilians and then doing exactly the same thing...

Please don't ever compare what the Nazis did with the efforts of the allies in WWII. Or have I misunderstood your point?

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by PeterPanPan

Please don't ever compare what the Nazis did with the efforts of the allies in WWII. Or have I misunderstood your point?

No you haven't missed his point I'm affraid, Stern makes it no secret he thinks history is a lie written by the Allies, and very much equates the collateral killing of civillians in the allied bombing campaingns to the deliberate mass murder perpetrated by the Nazis.

it's his oppinion and I'm done getting into big fights about it, beyond his naive beliefs he's not a bad chap.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

No you haven't missed his point I'm affraid, Stern makes it no secret he thinks history is a lie written by the Allies, and very much equates the collateral killing of civillians in the allied bombing campaingns to the deliberate mass murder perpetrated by the Nazis.

I rest my case.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I rest my case.

And what? the actual targets were strategic, the allies were simply not targeting civillians, they dropped enough leaflets warning of impending raids......or would it have all been easier to digest if the allied bombings were done on the back of revolutionary new technology like ICBM's?

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

And what? the actual targets were strategic, the allies were simply not targeting civillians, they dropped enough leaflets warning of impending raids......

But Bongo, the targets were the civilians. Specifically. Thats what the area campaign was all about. It all culminated in the Americans dropping the ultimate area weapon on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.