Friday Official Update, June 22, 2012

[JG52Krupi]

One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting the la5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed together they will spell trouble for the 109, by adding the 190 it will hopefully even the playing field a bit by adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting thela5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed will spell trouble for the 109 the 190 will even the playing field a bit adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot

And it entered service way before the La-5 and, while we are at it, Yak-9. So there would be no excuse in the world to not ship BoM without a Fw190.

[csThor]

If they're talking about the Battle of Stalingrad, or even the map for BoM, then no Fw 190 has a place there. It's first appearance on the Eastern Front was in September 1942, too, but on the other side of the frontline (at Lyuban south of Leningrad). The closest a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was a posting of a Staffel of ground-attack A-5 in spring of 1943 on the Taman peninsula whereas at Moscow the Fw 190 did not appear until October 1942.

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by csThor

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

The historically relevant types of aircraft on the first place, don't worry.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by csThor

If they're talking about the Battle of Stalingrad, or even the map for BoM, then no Fw 190 has a place there. It's first appearance on the Eastern Front was in September 1942, too, but on the other side of the frontline (at Lyuban south of Leningrad). The closest a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was a posting of a Staffel of ground-attack A-5 in spring of 1943 on the Taman peninsula whereas at Moscow the Fw 190 did not appear until October 1942.

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

Was the La5 at stalingrad?

[Skoshi Tiger]

If we have drivable tanks, we'll need observers. My guess is a Fieseler Storch!

[Blackdog_kt]

I was mostly flying the 190 in IL2 so i'll be naturally happy if it makes an appearance in the sequel. If it's an early model we could also make use of it in the existing BoB map as well.

In fact, the BoB map is good enough for scenarios up to 43-44 (unless long range bombers are concerned), so i guess that whatever appears for the eastern front add-on could be paired with suitable RAF aircraft and be used on the channel map as well. For example, if we get 109Fs and early 190s, modifying existing RAF flyables to model Spit Mk.Vs and Hurricane Mk.IIs would give us channel front content suitable for 1942, adding a 109G and a Hawker Typhoon or mosquito could move things forward a bit more, and so on.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Was the La5 at stalingrad?

Yep. First in combat was 49 IAP in the central combat zone (first claim on August 16 1942) while at Stalingrad 287 IAD (with 27, 240, 297 and 437 IAP) began flying combat missions on August 20 1942.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by csThor

Yep. First in combat was 49 IAP in the central combat zone (first claim on August 16 1942) while at Stalingrad 287 IAD (with 27, 240, 297 and 437 IAP) began flying combat missions on August 20 1942.

Well I am all for a realistic plane set, I am by no means saying that since they get the la5 we should get the 190 its just that they have so many types that they can use against the 109 that they have every potential advantage of the 109 covered... la5 below ~3000m and the mig3 is good at high altitudes... etc

We will have to see when they officially announce the sequel.

P.S. If they bring back the infamous bar I will not be bothering there is already mutterings in the ranks about rather rare Russian aircraft variants being made standard, really hope this is not true!

[csThor]

Any server admin and mission builder with a real interest in history would have to make the Yak-1 Model 1942 (not Yak-1b, though!) the main fighter type of the VVS in 1942, anyway. Any other types (like Yak-7B, LaGG-3, La-5 or any of the Lend&Lease-Types) were far less numerous than the Yak-1 models.