CLOD features discussion and speculation (moved from Friday June 15-2012 update)

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

WOW.....how are people not getting that the 'ambiguity' is the reason there is no list, the whole point was to say that 'everything' is under review.....as in anything you could care to list is included in the 'blanket' statement.

You miss the point: there are two sagas to the development of CloD as we know it (by that I mean the current DX version of the game):
-the original, pre announcement, updates by Oleg
-the updates, post announcement, by both Oleg and Luthier. (By announcement I mean the first ones with shots over shrek Island)

Luthier's comment was about what he had spoken about: thus the second category. Everything Oleg spoke about and showed in the first saga was either tangible, or treated as a given feature. For instance, he said X would be in the game, and this was never spoken of again.

The ambiguity in question is what Luthier is actually referring to. It's very easy to assume he meant the whole saga of CloD, but really if you were to travel back to the time when Furbs asked that question, it's very likely the previous 'promises' had escaped their attention, and they were thus talking about everything that was in the limelight post announcement.
Features like the map-builder, as I said, were treated as a given to appear in the game. Luthier may have made a post somewhere within a 70 page update topic to say this feature might not be included, but it certainly doesn't support any claim that a feature by feature list of what's not included every surfaced.

And certainly due to the ambiguity which I clearly emphasised, and which Luthier's comment doesn't do justice to, there is every reason for someone to feel misled.

I honestly don't feel the team did intend to mislead at all. However, given that they are working on a sequel already, it poses the question of when these features will be added in. I'd certainly sooner see an SDK and map builder than another scrap in an area I don't care about.

[bongodriver]

Oleg is gone and his promises with him, this got dumped on Luthier who has to make good of it.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I honestly don't feel the team did intend to mislead at all

That's good and I would trust those feelings.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

there is every reason for someone to feel misled.

Not really...see above

Originally Posted by philip.ed

given that they are working on a sequel already, it poses the question of when these features will be added in. I'd certainly sooner see an SDK and map builder than another scrap in an area I don't care about.

I see nothing wrong with all the 'promised' features making their way in via the new titles, wether the theatre is anything 'you' care about is redundant, if it happened in WWII then it is a valid entry, have we forgotten that a software developer needs to develop software to make their money?

[philip.ed]

I'm happy these are your views Bongo

Understand that you're basing your argument on the presumption people share these views: many of which don't. You joined the forum on the month of release, so spared yourself from the deluge of disappointment.

[bongodriver]

I'm happy these are your views Bongo

Excellent.

Understand that you're basing your argument on the presumption people share these views: many of which don't.

I'm basing my argument on 'my' views, I just happen to know some do share them, I don't see where you are going with this.

You joined the forum on the month of release

Yes but I was born 39 years before that....again where are you going with this?

so spared yourself from the deluge of disappointment.

I'm old enough to have seen many a dissapointment in life, trust me, a game being released in less than ideal condition is hardly one of lifes 'big ones'.

Somehow I have to include something 'on topic'........When is the patch due B6?

[addman]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Somehow I have to include something 'on topic'........When is the patch due B6?

Last Wednesday or any day after that was the latest I heard.

[bongodriver]

Yeah....so did I, it just seems obligatory to ask.